[Pickpocketing] 1/4 experience gain.

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White_935
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[Pickpocketing] 1/4 experience gain.

Post by White_935 » Sun Feb 16, 2020 1:03 pm

Description:
Pickpocketing bloodmoon orcs, for this case-scenario, but the scenario is valid for so far all monsters encountered.
You walk up to a blood moon Archer, killing the orc yields 24 experience.
I then stealth up to a nearby orc, and pickpocket, gaining 6 experience.

Steps to reproduce
Pickpocket a monster, then kill it, to compare the experience.

Expected result
As per the wikipedia (http://wiki.nwnarelith.com/Pickpocket)
Expect result is half of gained experience from pickpocket 24/2 = 12 xp

Actual result
Actual result is 6 experience, thus it seems the modifier is in fact 1/4 of the experience, rather than half.

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Notes
Either the wikipedia is wrong, or the yield of pickpocket is 1/4 not 1/2.

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Re: [Pickpocketing] 1/4 experience gain.

Post by Void » Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:59 pm

I second this. Actually it seems between 1/3 and 1/4, so maybe it is just 6 xp max per successful attempt?
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Re: [Pickpocketing] 1/4 experience gain.

Post by CookieMonster » Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:06 pm

Does Pickpocket change with ECL and does it reflect your XP if say you had adventure xp off rather than on? Just curious if the number tallys up with anything or if it's just a bit wacky
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Re: [Pickpocketing] 1/4 experience gain.

Post by AskRyze » Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:31 pm

I have replicated this bug - unaware enemies that give 13 EXP when killed are giving 3 xp when pickpocketed successfully.

Edit: Adventure XP on or off does not change the amount of XP gained when pickpocketing, and I don't see the adventure XP increase after pickpocketing.
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Re: [Pickpocketing] 1/4 experience gain.

Post by Nitro » Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:59 pm

Not sure why the wiki says its half the mobs XP, it's always been a quarter.

Looking at the page history, it seems Iceborn edited the wording in 2016 from:
Successful stealing from NPCs can reward characters with some small experience reward.
to
Successful stealing from hostile NPCs can reward characters with an extra half of their experience reward.
So They were probably just working off incorrect information when they made the edit to the wiki article.

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Re: [Pickpocketing] 1/4 experience gain.

Post by Void » Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:52 pm

CookieMonster wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:06 pm
Does Pickpocket change with ECL and does it reflect your XP if say you had adventure xp off rather than on? Just curious if the number tallys up with anything or if it's just a bit wacky
Well, practical situation.

Pickpocket xp for a monster: 4.
Kill xp for the same monster: 52.
(miniboss)

I personally have never seen pickpocket bonus go above 6 xp. Doesn't look like it is affected by ECL, also stuff you steal doesn't go into your bag automatically (-_-). Additionally despite saying that "only items worth 2 or less spaces cane be stolen", when robbing monsters it is still possible to end up with "crumpled helmet" or "ruined armor" (4 spaces each), but that's because of how looting system works.
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Re: [Pickpocketing] 1/4 experience gain.

Post by Void » Mon Mar 30, 2020 8:55 pm

Nitro wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:59 pm
Not sure why the wiki says its half the mobs XP, it's always been a quarter.
It feels like it is some sort of different value entirely and not a quarter of kill xp. Because I've been getting 1/3rds of kill xp too. It just throws values in range of 3..6.

I'd need to do a suicidal run to some tough region to see if it scales when you aim above your level.
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