Arelith

What are your thoughts on making an Orog bard, warlock, or sorc to utilize that +2 char bonus ? Which do you think is "better"?

There once was a Half-Orc Bard named Twinkles.

He dressed in pink and white, and skipped around, merrily.

He constantly talked about poop, and made lots of fart noises.



I feel these are all things that Arelith has sorely lacked, since his departure.

Sorc and Warlock are both spell based, so if you want to make use of that +4 strength too, I would say bard, with 4 levels of blackguard on the side pre-epic, getting divine feats and 16 BAB, along with 4 levels of fighter in epic for feats and weapon specialization.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... edit#gid=0

Here's the blueprint for the Bard20/Fighter6/BG4. As Orog, I'd trade the Toughness feat for Exotic weapon proficiency to wield dat mighty Orog bastard sword. Orogs get Power attack for free, which is good synergy for a BG build!

If you're asking which class is better, because it really doesn't matter as you get the same bonuses all around ( even if we include the additional strength ) it goes like this bard > sorc > warlock simply because that's how these classes stand at the moment. Orog is generally a very strong race, you don't have to utilize on their additional charisma whatsoever to make the best out of them. Most of other simple things can also easily work for as long as they are either strength or charisma focused.

You can definitely make a good Orog Warlock. Been done before.

PinataPlethora wrote: ↑

Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:41 pm

There once was a Half-Orc Bard named Twinkles.

He dressed in pink and white, and skipped around, merrily.

He constantly talked about poop, and made lots of fart noises.



I feel these are all things that Arelith has sorely lacked, since his departure.

Goodness! You remember him. Thank you so much for that
I deleted him, to let him pass onto the great beyond~

So yes, to the TS. If a crummy half-orc with cha deficiency can make it to epic bard... definitely can with your orog'lock!

Depends on what you want. They all play very differently.

27 sorc / 3 bg is the best pvp build in the game right now and is still very good for PvE.
This one is the hardest to play well, but also the most fun of the 3 in my opinion

Fiendlock is probably the easiest to play pve build and is solid in pvp
This one is easy to the point that you might get bored of it by epic levels. Most of your combat involves repeatedly casting quickened flare while cycling through your blast elements. It can also be a bit of a pain in groups because lag and people moving around in combat can make it somewhat difficult to target enemies in small corridors

Bard / fighter / blackguard is an amazing support class that will handle both pretty well, but really shines in a party
The downside of this is that you have a very long windup to reach your full power. Casting bard song, curse song, divine might, and divine shield is a long wait before you can start swinging.

An orog would be good for any of them, although warlock has less synergy. You only need 16 cha and should pump the rest into constitution. The 5% DI is also nice as it stacks with warlock and gear, so you can get 30% slashing DI and 25% pierce/bludgeon along with your 9/- EDR if you use masterly elven chain and a dwarven rune wall

A brainless version of playing a Sorc 26 / BG 4 Orog would be taking the True Flame path. That is if you're okay with dying more often early game but having a lot more fun later with not having to worry as much about managing feats, sleep, and sobriety.

Initial Ability Scores:
13 Str / 6 Dex / 16 Con / 6 Wis / 14 Int / 19 Charisma

All 7 stats in Charisma.

Here's a sample build as to why Sorc 26 BG 4 instead of 27/3 split:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... 1278128365