Melee Ranger, can monk splash with quarterstaff work?
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Melee Ranger, can monk splash with quarterstaff work?
Edit: would monk 6 be worth it for KD/Imp KD? I'm not sure what all monks still get.
Re: Melee Ranger, can monk splash with quarterstaff work?
To splash monk and keep the UBAB progression would require you to commit to cloth armor and no shield, which probably isn't much of a problem for a quarterstaff wielder.
Without running the numbers, dex-based seems the way to go, since quarterstaff is a finesse weapon on Arelith.
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Re: Melee Ranger, can monk splash with quarterstaff work?
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Re: Melee Ranger, can monk splash with quarterstaff work?
How critical is assassin to this build? Could you do fighter instead and pick up epic weapon specialization? I didn't particularly want to be evil or assassinate people.
Re: Melee Ranger, can monk splash with quarterstaff work?
Switch Assassin out for Fighter, sure. Just grab 4 levels in Epics and another Monk in late Epics. Line the feats up so that you can grab Weapon Specialization/Epic Weapon Spec., then your Monk anywhere from 27-30 to grab a final Tumble dip.
Edit: I've adjusted the build linked there to represent what I'm talking about.
For the curious as to "Why Monk 5?", Monk 5 grants +1 AC. The alternatives were Fighter 5 (which also grants +1 AC but doesn't stack with a Cleric's buff if you happen to have one in your party) and Ranger 22, which does (to my knowledge) really nothing.
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Re: Melee Ranger, can monk splash with quarterstaff work?
you get a +5 weapon that go though DR spells, lots of favorite enemies. 25 bab, 10 APR if you are in flurry of blows mode, AC up to 70+ if you are fully buffed and in IE. and those 10 attacks do a fine amount of damage because of bane of enemies.
the tough thing is to get to ranger level 24 without the monk dip. the build would be slightly worse if you do ranger 26 monk 4 (lose 1 AB and 1 favorite enemy.)
Re: Melee Ranger, can monk splash with quarterstaff work?
This build looks really sick, but how critical would you consider SF/GSF Transmutation? I notice the build lacks KD/IKD, is that a problem?Jack Oat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:37 amSwitch Assassin out for Fighter, sure. Just grab 4 levels in Epics and another Monk in late Epics. Line the feats up so that you can grab Weapon Specialization/Epic Weapon Spec., then your Monk anywhere from 27-30 to grab a final Tumble dip.
Edit: I've adjusted the build linked there to represent what I'm talking about.
For the curious as to "Why Monk 5?", Monk 5 grants +1 AC. The alternatives were Fighter 5 (which also grants +1 AC but doesn't stack with a Cleric's buff if you happen to have one in your party) and Ranger 22, which does (to my knowledge) really nothing.
Re: Melee Ranger, can monk splash with quarterstaff work?
You could switch them out for KD and another Favored Enemy, sure. I just did Trans foci cus... idk i could and it's my build?Straydog wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:30 pmThis build looks really sick, but how critical would you consider SF/GSF Transmutation? I notice the build lacks KD/IKD, is that a problem?Jack Oat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:37 amSwitch Assassin out for Fighter, sure. Just grab 4 levels in Epics and another Monk in late Epics. Line the feats up so that you can grab Weapon Specialization/Epic Weapon Spec., then your Monk anywhere from 27-30 to grab a final Tumble dip.
Edit: I've adjusted the build linked there to represent what I'm talking about.
For the curious as to "Why Monk 5?", Monk 5 grants +1 AC. The alternatives were Fighter 5 (which also grants +1 AC but doesn't stack with a Cleric's buff if you happen to have one in your party) and Ranger 22, which does (to my knowledge) really nothing.
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Irongron wrote:My main takeaway from this is that Jack is apparently personable
Re: Melee Ranger, can monk splash with quarterstaff work?
You are the expert, I'm just asking questions to learnJack Oat wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:56 pmYou could switch them out for KD and another Favored Enemy, sure. I just did Trans foci cus... idk i could and it's my build?Straydog wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:30 pmThis build looks really sick, but how critical would you consider SF/GSF Transmutation? I notice the build lacks KD/IKD, is that a problem?Jack Oat wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:37 am
Switch Assassin out for Fighter, sure. Just grab 4 levels in Epics and another Monk in late Epics. Line the feats up so that you can grab Weapon Specialization/Epic Weapon Spec., then your Monk anywhere from 27-30 to grab a final Tumble dip.
Edit: I've adjusted the build linked there to represent what I'm talking about.
For the curious as to "Why Monk 5?", Monk 5 grants +1 AC. The alternatives were Fighter 5 (which also grants +1 AC but doesn't stack with a Cleric's buff if you happen to have one in your party) and Ranger 22, which does (to my knowledge) really nothing.
Re: Melee Ranger, can monk splash with quarterstaff work?
It has very little mechanical use so by all means load up on combat enhancing feats instead if that’s your thang
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Jack wants gsf transmutation because there's a ranger only spear with x/day Aura of Vitality. Maybe there are other reasons...
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Eh. GSF just makes it 3 rnds/lvl. It's nice I guess, but nah. I went for trans cus of the +1 to stat buffs, which is helpful for MAD builds.AstralUniverse wrote: ↑Tue Dec 17, 2019 7:35 pmJack wants gsf transmutation because there's a ranger only spear with x/day Aura of Vitality. Maybe there are other reasons...
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Rangers on arelith can start with low dex and reach max dex of their armor via buffing dex.Straydog wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 12:10 amStrength based appeals to me more due to more damage per hit, but I'm not super experienced with character building, dex based would help offset AC issues I assume, or is stacking AC for defense even particularly viable for a character like this? If I was going unarmored I could benefit from the monk wisdom AC bonus... is that relevant at all?
Like there is this specisl ranger only studded leather armor that is a plus 4 and adds its own dex. Combine that with cats grace and you will be reaching max dex bonus of said armor witu base dex 10 in no time allowing you to focus on str for ab and damage whike still wearing light armor. And you can grab a shield to boot early lvls or just when you need to be tanky.
A str ranger with only a monk dip will suffer. Though not impossible with tristating items for con dex wisdom and str if you want to end up with a decent hp pool and and good ab and good ac. Meanwhile a ranger can just str + con + uni save all his gear and have good ac, good ab, better crit range, with less attacks but better saves and easier time leveling with shield option.