[Solved]EDR on warlock

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[Solved]EDR on warlock

Post by Void » Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:04 pm

Is epic damage reduction even useful on a warlock?

The cookie cutter build section has a cha-based feylock and con-based infernalist with EDR but... does it even stack with anything warlock has?

I'm sorta wondering if the investment is worth it or reducing con in order to get a bit more int or strength (and maybe wear armor) would be a good idea.
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Re: EDR on warlock

Post by Drowboy » Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:09 pm

EDR warlock (fiend and fey) has been the optimal, easiest to play warlock build for years now. EDR and warlock immunity both take effect, as does immunities from gear.
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Re: EDR on warlock

Post by Void » Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:24 pm

Drowboy wrote:
Fri Apr 03, 2020 2:09 pm
EDR warlock (fiend and fey) has been the optimal, easiest to play warlock build for years now. EDR and warlock immunity both take effect, as does immunities from gear.
The problem is it kicks in epic levels and it takes months to get there.

Let's say I want to live dangerously and forego it. I don't lose much, do I?
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Re: EDR on warlock

Post by Morgy » Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:30 pm

Responding from the stance of a Fey-pacted warlock - I've found high CHA and Blackguard for super saves/divine shield works perfectly without the need for EDR.

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Re: EDR on warlock

Post by Void » Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:49 pm

Morgy wrote:
Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:30 pm
Responding from the stance of a Fey-pacted warlock - I've found high CHA and Blackguard for super saves/divine shield works perfectly without the need for EDR.
I was thinking about Fiendlock, meaning summon puppeteering. In case of Fiendlock loss of 3 levels locks the warlock out of the last summon.
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Re: EDR on warlock

Post by AstralUniverse » Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:10 pm

according to the wiki, you get your last summon at lvl 25. You get Icestrom at lvl 28. In fact, on a Fiendlock, I would take both blackguard and EDR 3.
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Re: EDR on warlock

Post by Void » Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:34 pm

AstralUniverse wrote:
Fri Apr 03, 2020 4:10 pm
according to the wiki, you get your last summon at lvl 25. You get Icestrom at lvl 28. In fact, on a Fiendlock, I would take both blackguard and EDR 3.
My bad, I didn't realize the table skipped some levels. Yes, in this case blackguard levels are a good idea.
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Re: EDR on warlock

Post by Void » Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:29 pm

Marking as solved. I found a way to tweak recommended build more to my liking.
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Re: [Solved]EDR on warlock

Post by Ork » Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:34 pm

You're going to want ice storm. It procs eldritch blast & is the source of a lot of fiend lock damage. I'd never do BG with a fiendlock.

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Re: [Solved]EDR on warlock

Post by Void » Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:42 pm

Ork wrote:
Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:34 pm
You're going to want ice storm. It procs eldritch blast & is the source of a lot of fiend lock damage. I'd never do BG with a fiendlock.
Noted. It is highly likely that I won't ever get to the ice storm level though.
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Re: [Solved]EDR on warlock

Post by AstralUniverse » Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:19 pm

I would like to change my mind. going bg also means needing 13 str, 2 more feats and I think empowered icestorm is actually good. pure imo.
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Re: [Solved]EDR on warlock

Post by Void » Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:07 pm

AstralUniverse wrote:
Fri Apr 03, 2020 10:19 pm
I would like to change my mind. going bg also means needing 13 str, 2 more feats and I think empowered icestorm is actually good. pure imo.
Going BG does not require feats on arelith. Only attack bonus +6.
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Re: [Solved]EDR on warlock

Post by AstralUniverse » Sat Apr 04, 2020 3:42 am

its not for the BG requirements, its for actually making use of the class. 13 str, power attack and divine shield, or you shouldnt even consider taking the class.
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Re: [Solved]EDR on warlock

Post by Void » Sun Apr 05, 2020 12:08 am

AstralUniverse wrote:
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its not for the BG requirements, its for actually making use of the class. 13 str, power attack and divine shield, or
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Re: [Solved]EDR on warlock

Post by TimeAdept » Sun Apr 05, 2020 5:59 am

For fiendlocks, keepin gthe summon at absolute max power, and getting Ice Storm, is more important than that.

with spellcraft, your high CON, and bard natural saves, gettinf extremely high in all 3 saves vs spells and even in general is a pittance anyways, since gearing is extremely easy.

As a Feylock, going 27 Feylock 3 BG is a no brainer, though, especially because Feylock has an extra feat to use, able to pick up Still Spell in place of Fiendlock needing Quicken spell.

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Re: [Solved]EDR on warlock

Post by the grim yeeter » Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:37 am

Don't dip BG on a fiendlock. Fiendlocks go pure and CON. EDR is a must. Warlocks level very easily, so the way to EDR feats shouldn't take long, really.
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