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Re: Epic Mummy Dust
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:50 pm
by NauVaseline
Why not summon a Baelnorn?
Re: Epic Mummy Dust
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:02 pm
by malcolm_mountainslayer
CNS wrote: ↑Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:49 pm
Arguing that a because the game doesn't prevent a good aligned character from taking it they can take it is a really bad argument, last I checked this is a role play community - we're clutching at some thin straws if we're going down that path.
I picked EMD because its a good PVE epic level summon. It seems it main PVP benefit is the number of bodies it creates to throw in the way of things.
Lets put the flavor of EMD aside.
Would a better ask be more PVE focused Epic level summoning options?
Yes.
Add more epic spells.
Re: Epic Mummy Dust
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:33 pm
by Nitro
NauVaseline wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:50 pm
Why not summon a Baelnorn?
You mean the one in a million who explicitly stay in their crypts to guard knowledge and make sure it doesn't fade from the world in a selfless sacrifice? Yeah ripping those guys out to kill orcs for you sure seems like a really
good thing to do.
Re: Epic Mummy Dust
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:01 pm
by Shadowy Reality
Nitro wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:33 pm
NauVaseline wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:50 pm
Why not summon a Baelnorn?
You mean the one in a million who explicitly stay in their crypts to guard knowledge and make sure it doesn't fade from the world in a selfless sacrifice? Yeah ripping those guys out to kill orcs for you sure seems like a really
good thing to do.
Come on, but that is just a step above summoning a Gold Dragon to kill goblins for you. Or summoning a Gold Dragon to fight another Gold dragon someone summoned.
Re: Epic Mummy Dust
Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:34 pm
by Reallylongunneededplayername
Shadowy Reality wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 8:01 pm
Nitro wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:33 pm
NauVaseline wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:50 pm
Why not summon a Baelnorn?
You mean the one in a million who explicitly stay in their crypts to guard knowledge and make sure it doesn't fade from the world in a selfless sacrifice? Yeah ripping those guys out to kill orcs for you sure seems like a really
good thing to do.
Come on, but that is just a step above summoning a Gold Dragon to kill goblins for you. Or summoning a Gold Dragon to fight another Gold dragon someone summoned.
TBH, Most will still go "all undead must die".
Re: Epic Mummy Dust
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:13 am
by NauVaseline
Nitro wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:33 pm
snarky retort
As someone else noted, Gold Dragons, and I will further note Celestial stream
Re: Epic Mummy Dust
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:32 pm
by the grim yeeter
NauVaseline wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:13 am
Nitro wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:33 pm
snarky retort
As someone else noted, Gold Dragons, and I will further note Celestial stream
Yes. Being able to summon dragons is also very ridiculous, and shouldn't be a thing either. Just like summoning a baelnorn, rofl. Not that the two are comparable by any means. They're two very different creatures, and it's even less likely for a baelnorn to be summoned than for an adult dragon to be.
Re: Epic Mummy Dust
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:53 pm
by NauVaseline
the grim yeeter wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:32 pm
Yes. Being able to summon dragons is also very ridiculous, and shouldn't be a thing either. Just like summoning a baelnorn, rofl. Not that the two are comparable by any means. They're two very different creatures, and it's even less likely for a baelnorn to be summoned than for an adult dragon to be.
This is Arelith. suspension of disbelief was abandoned a while ago m8
Greater Ruin Rods
Re: Epic Mummy Dust
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:58 pm
by Anomandaris
the grim yeeter wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:32 pm
NauVaseline wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:13 am
Nitro wrote: ↑Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:33 pm
snarky retort
As someone else noted, Gold Dragons, and I will further note Celestial stream
Yes. Being able to summon dragons is also very ridiculous, and shouldn't be a thing either. Just like summoning a baelnorn, rofl. Not that the two are comparable by any means. They're two very different creatures, and it's even less likely for a baelnorn to be summoned than for an adult dragon to be.
Curious about this.. why? It's pretty epic and I love seeing it happen even when on the receiving end. I really don't want to adopt a sever mentality of.. ohh they have that epic/cool/dangerous/shiny thing.. I don't like it, it kills me some times and I can't have it so let's get rid of it! Kind of the same thing on the thread with the pally signet ring. Oh they have powerful ring, NERF IT! Yah it's a little OP but good for them I'm happy they have a cool toy to play with, after all it's a game and we love our trophies and treasures etc. I never have played a pally but I'm totally fine with them having it. If/when I get smoked by paladins, it's not gonna be "because" of that ring.
Saw a similar thing with HIPS the other week. Someone's like that should be nerfed to a longer CD. Ok, well I disagree but maybe there's a legit argument there for that or (insert something else). But the reality is someone gets smoked by someone w/ HIPS or a Dragon or a Wizard using Hellball and all the sudden it's an issue. The reality is there should, and always will be 100+ ways to get pwnd if you're caught slipping by any number of people.
Re: Epic Mummy Dust
Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:03 pm
by MissEvelyn
Jordenk wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:58 pm
the grim yeeter wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:32 pm
NauVaseline wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:13 am
As someone else noted, Gold Dragons, and I will further note Celestial stream
Yes. Being able to summon dragons is also very ridiculous, and shouldn't be a thing either. Just like summoning a baelnorn, rofl. Not that the two are comparable by any means. They're two very different creatures, and it's even less likely for a baelnorn to be summoned than for an adult dragon to be.
Curious about this.. why? It's pretty epic and I love seeing it happen even when on the receiving end. I really don't want to adopt a sever mentality of.. ohh they have that epic/cool/dangerous/shiny thing.. I don't like it, it kills me some times and I can't have it so let's get rid of it! Kind of the same thing on the thread with the pally signet ring. Oh they have powerful ring, NERF IT! Yah it's a little OP but good for them I'm happy they have a cool toy to play with, after all it's a game and we love our trophies and treasures etc. I never have played a pally but I'm totally fine with them having it. If/when I get smoked by paladins, it's not gonna be "because" of that ring.
Saw a similar thing with HIPS the other week. Someone's like that should be nerfed to a longer CD. Ok, well I disagree but maybe there's a legit argument there for that or (insert something else). But the reality is someone gets smoked by someone w/ HIPS or a Dragon or a Wizard using Hellball and all the sudden it's an issue. The reality is there should, and always will be 100+ ways to get pwnd if you're caught slipping by any number of people.
That's a very refreshing take on this. And I find myself agreeing with you. Despite being someone who absolutely abhors PvP
for what's it has become, I feel like taking away options is never a good idea. Give us more options and toys to play with, not less.
That said - in regards to this thread - I agree with those who say EMD celestial version would be a bad thing as a whole for the RP health of our server. The epic necromancers, provided they make it that far, have deserved their special cookies.
Re: Epic Mummy Dust
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:52 pm
by the grim yeeter
NauVaseline wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:53 pm
the grim yeeter wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:32 pm
Yes. Being able to summon dragons is also very ridiculous, and shouldn't be a thing either. Just like summoning a baelnorn, rofl. Not that the two are comparable by any means. They're two very different creatures, and it's even less likely for a baelnorn to be summoned than for an adult dragon to be.
This is Arelith. suspension of disbelief was abandoned a while ago m8
Greater Ruin Rods
Yeah. Also extremely absurd.
Jordenk wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:58 pm
the grim yeeter wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:32 pm
NauVaseline wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 10:13 am
As someone else noted, Gold Dragons, and I will further note Celestial stream
Yes. Being able to summon dragons is also very ridiculous, and shouldn't be a thing either. Just like summoning a baelnorn, rofl. Not that the two are comparable by any means. They're two very different creatures, and it's even less likely for a baelnorn to be summoned than for an adult dragon to be.
Curious about this.. why? It's pretty epic and I love seeing it happen even when on the receiving end. I really don't want to adopt a sever mentality of.. ohh they have that epic/cool/dangerous/shiny thing.. I don't like it, it kills me some times and I can't have it so let's get rid of it! Kind of the same thing on the thread with the pally signet ring. Oh they have powerful ring, NERF IT! Yah it's a little OP but good for them I'm happy they have a cool toy to play with, after all it's a game and we love our trophies and treasures etc. I never have played a pally but I'm totally fine with them having it. If/when I get smoked by paladins, it's not gonna be "because" of that ring.
Saw a similar thing with HIPS the other week. Someone's like that should be nerfed to a longer CD. Ok, well I disagree but maybe there's a legit argument there for that or (insert something else). But the reality is someone gets smoked by someone w/ HIPS or a Dragon or a Wizard using Hellball and all the sudden it's an issue. The reality is there should, and always will be 100+ ways to get pwnd if you're caught slipping by any number of people.
That's not at
all the reason behind my post. I was referring to it being ridiculous lore-wise.
Re: Epic Mummy Dust
Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2019 4:15 pm
by Anomandaris
the grim yeeter wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2019 3:52 pm
NauVaseline wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 6:53 pm
the grim yeeter wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:32 pm
Yes. Being able to summon dragons is also very ridiculous, and shouldn't be a thing either. Just like summoning a baelnorn, rofl. Not that the two are comparable by any means. They're two very different creatures, and it's even less likely for a baelnorn to be summoned than for an adult dragon to be.
This is Arelith. suspension of disbelief was abandoned a while ago m8
Greater Ruin Rods
Yeah. Also extremely absurd.
Jordenk wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 8:58 pm
the grim yeeter wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:32 pm
Yes. Being able to summon dragons is also very ridiculous, and shouldn't be a thing either. Just like summoning a baelnorn, rofl. Not that the two are comparable by any means. They're two very different creatures, and it's even less likely for a baelnorn to be summoned than for an adult dragon to be.
Curious about this.. why? It's pretty epic and I love seeing it happen even when on the receiving end. I really don't want to adopt a sever mentality of.. ohh they have that epic/cool/dangerous/shiny thing.. I don't like it, it kills me some times and I can't have it so let's get rid of it! Kind of the same thing on the thread with the pally signet ring. Oh they have powerful ring, NERF IT! Yah it's a little OP but good for them I'm happy they have a cool toy to play with, after all it's a game and we love our trophies and treasures etc. I never have played a pally but I'm totally fine with them having it. If/when I get smoked by paladins, it's not gonna be "because" of that ring.
Saw a similar thing with HIPS the other week. Someone's like that should be nerfed to a longer CD. Ok, well I disagree but maybe there's a legit argument there for that or (insert something else). But the reality is someone gets smoked by someone w/ HIPS or a Dragon or a Wizard using Hellball and all the sudden it's an issue. The reality is there should, and always will be 100+ ways to get pwnd if you're caught slipping by any number of people.
That's not at
all the reason behind my post. I was referring to it being ridiculous lore-wise.
Ahh ok, sorry didn't mean to mis-characterize what you were trying to say
