Vampires: To slay or not to slay

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Pop quiz: Vampire Encounter! What do you do???

Poll ended at Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:06 pm

Smite! Decapitate the vampire, stuff garlic in its mouth, cut out and drive a stake through its heart, bury it at a busy crossroad or immolate the remains, sprinkle it with holy water, dump the ashes in the ocean or running water!
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56%
Flee!
8
14%
Ask it out on a date and watch the twighlight approach.
12
20%
Capture it and use it later: Vampirina, I choose YOU!
6
10%
 
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Vampires: To slay or not to slay

Post by Bashagain » Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:06 pm

Pop quiz: You’re riding your horse at 3 leagues an hour. Before you on the road stands a vampire in midst of feeding, clutching its prey. What do you do? What... do you do? (Be sure to re-read the question in your best Keanu Reeves impression)
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Re: Vampires: To slay or not to slay

Post by Diilicious » Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:10 pm

Murder Death Kill, Murder Death Kill...
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Re: Vampires: To slay or not to slay

Post by Cortex » Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:23 pm

FR vampires are just intelligent sentient predators who want nothing but self empowerment and to feed.

Logically speaking, you kill them whenever possible.
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Re: Vampires: To slay or not to slay

Post by BegoneThoth » Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:27 pm

Can they not also be tragic anti-heros?
Cortex wrote:FR vampires are just intelligent sentient predators who want nothing but self empowerment and to feed.
Perhaps the same could be said of humans.
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Re: Vampires: To slay or not to slay

Post by cptcuddlepants » Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:31 pm

This is where I would slay vampires, if I had a character that was capable of killing anything.
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Post by Hunter548 » Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:44 pm

BegoneThoth wrote:Can they not also be tragic anti-heros?
Cortex wrote:FR vampires are just intelligent sentient predators who want nothing but self empowerment and to feed.
Perhaps the same could be said of humans.
Humans don't have to attack and potentially kill other humans on the regular to survive. Vampires do.

Libris Mortis (I think) specifically mentions that while vampires are free-willed, and aren't forcibly alignment shifted, all of them that exist long enough will eventually end up moving to Chaotic Evil because of their thirst and the actions they have to undertake to slake it.
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Post by gilescorey » Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:47 pm

VAMPIRES ARE EVIL

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Post by BegoneThoth » Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:49 pm

Hunter548 wrote:
BegoneThoth wrote:Can they not also be tragic anti-heros?
Cortex wrote:FR vampires are just intelligent sentient predators who want nothing but self empowerment and to feed.
Perhaps the same could be said of humans.
Humans don't have to attack and potentially kill other humans on the regular to survive. Vampires do.
Think you would be hard pressed to find an epic level adventurer that hasn't killed scores of humans to get there. The various pirate areas are the most frequented leveling zones.
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Post by Cortex » Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:54 pm

The point is that vampires have no emotional capacity or attachment, they're intelligent animals that want to feed. They've no capacity for any other form of self-fulfilment.
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Post by Hunter548 » Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:55 pm

BegoneThoth wrote: Think you would be hard pressed to find an epic level adventurer that hasn't killed scores of humans to get there. The various pirate areas are the most frequented leveling zones.
I'm not saying killing people is inherently evil (And certainly not killing people who attempt to murder everyone they see for their own profit, as said pirates do). I'm saying that killing people for no reason other than because you're addicted to eating them, is evil.
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Post by Lorkas » Fri Oct 20, 2017 7:58 pm

Libris Mortis (I think) specifically mentions that while vampires are free-willed, and aren't forcibly alignment shifted, all of them that exist long enough will eventually end up moving to Chaotic Evil because of their thirst and the actions they have to undertake to slake it.
Everything I can find about vampires in that book and in the Monster Manual says that vampires are always evil, but can be any evil.

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Post by gilescorey » Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:02 pm

I mean, you don't have to kill those pirates; only ridiculously bloodthirsty adventurers have any desire to go and beat on them. Bill F. Armer who makes his life picking fruit can live off eating berries and steak. He doesn't need to go and kill people to sustain himself.

Vampires do, thus vampires are evil. Also animating the undead is arbitrarily flagged as evil by game mechanics, so whether one likes it or not they're evil. Right or wrong is nothing in the face of inscrutable and arbitrary notions of good and evil, after all.

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Re: Vampires: To slay or not to slay

Post by flower » Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:24 pm

MY Drow would invite it to a date and to keep sending it below to prey on her brethen :lol:

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Post by -XXX- » Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:27 pm

ANYONE WHO TRIES TO PRETEND THAT STAKING VAMPIRES IS EZ HAS OBVIOUSLY NEVER PLAYED THE FURY OF DRACULA BEFORE!

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Post by SwampFoot » Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:33 pm

The only anti-hero vampire I'd accept is Cain. Evil to the core, laughs out loud at the misery and death of others and flat-out murders anyone that gets in his way.

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Post by JediMindTrix » Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:36 pm

Mass Heal.

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Post by Dr_Hazard89 » Fri Oct 20, 2017 8:46 pm

Cortex wrote:The point is that vampires have no emotional capacity or attachment, they're intelligent animals that want to feed. They've no capacity for any other form of self-fulfilment.
They also like adamantine.
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Re: Vampires: To slay or not to slay

Post by gilescorey » Fri Oct 20, 2017 10:24 pm

flower wrote:MY Drow would invite it to a date and to keep sending it below to prey on her brethen :lol:
i love being good aligned ^_^

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Post by Xanos950 » Sat Oct 21, 2017 3:17 am

Cortex wrote:The point is that vampires have no emotional capacity or attachment, they're intelligent animals that want to feed. They've no capacity for any other form of self-fulfilment.
So are 100% of all adventurers

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Post by Hunter548 » Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:57 am

Xanos950 wrote:
Cortex wrote:The point is that vampires have no emotional capacity or attachment, they're intelligent animals that want to feed. They've no capacity for any other form of self-fulfilment.
So are 100% of all adventurers
Hunter548 wrote:
BegoneThoth wrote: Think you would be hard pressed to find an epic level adventurer that hasn't killed scores of humans to get there. The various pirate areas are the most frequented leveling zones.
I'm not saying killing people is inherently evil (And certainly not killing people who attempt to murder everyone they see for their own profit, as said pirates do). I'm saying that killing people for no reason other than because you're addicted to eating them, is evil.
we had this argument earlier in the thread
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Post by -XXX- » Sat Oct 21, 2017 6:20 am

Diilicious wrote:Murder Death Kill, Murder Death Kill...
gilescorey wrote:i love being good aligned ^_^
I sense a pattern regarding the good alignment...

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Post by Iceborn » Sat Oct 21, 2017 12:04 pm

Paladin vampire when?
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Post by Cuchilla » Sat Oct 21, 2017 12:36 pm

Do what I always do: Flee!

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Post by Petrifictus » Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:12 am

Wet my feet with holy water and offer a great butt-kicking for goodness!
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