Cursesong doesn't trigger - Abilities not triggering when AOE.

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Cursesong doesn't trigger - Abilities not triggering when AOE.

Post by Dreams » Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:37 am

Noticing that enemies within the bard's curse song for Booming Drums of the Storm are not always being hit by lightning. It happens sometimes, other times only 1 gets hit. They're all in the AOE, but as a result many are not being debuffed by the base curse song either.

Other AOEs have been very buggy for a few months, I'm wondering if this is anything to do with it. Others that are affected are:
- Mass Haste (not hitting all members in AOE, or hasting some but not others. Even casting targeted on caster which should always land occasionally doesn't.)
- PDK Heal (not healing all members within AOE)
- PDK Fear (not triggering save vs DC for all enemies in AOE)

Edit: This is happening with all curse songs now. I'm testing in game vs groups of NPCs. All of them are within the area, only 2 or 3 out of 6 will be hit by the curse song. Doesn't matter which curse I have selected.
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Re: Abilities not triggering when AOE.

Post by Kuma » Tue Jan 05, 2021 5:46 am

Negative Energy Burst has been doing the same for ages - not hitting all summoned undead at once. It doesn't even seem to be random, it just will not hit some of them even over multiple castings.

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Re: Abilities not triggering when AOE.

Post by A MAN DRUNK ON POWER » Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:49 am

I also have noticed this and had it happen tonight with both Last Stand (PDK heal) and Mass Haste.

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Re: Cursesong doesn't trigger - Abilities not triggering when AOE.

Post by Ork » Wed Jan 06, 2021 5:31 pm

The AoE bug appears to have gotten noticeably worse since the bard update.

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Re: Cursesong doesn't trigger - Abilities not triggering when AOE.

Post by DangerDolphin » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:09 am

Is this happening with regular bard song or just curse song?

I'm thinking it must be lag related as I can't reproduce it with curse song in the PGCC.

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Re: Cursesong doesn't trigger - Abilities not triggering when AOE.

Post by Dreams » Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:22 am

This seems to be happening to both on the main server. Some of my friends aren't able to replicate, but others can. Songs that apply spell effects have it happen, e.g. Watcher's. If the party member isn't hit with the spell effects, they also don't get the benefit of the base song.

For curse song it's happening to a few of them, but the Drums song is likely the easiest to notice because of the lightning visuals.

For Watcher/Drums, today whilst adventuring I've seen these have 0 effect on anything around me, hit half of the things, or hit all of the things. It's entirely random.

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Re: Cursesong doesn't trigger - Abilities not triggering when AOE.

Post by DangerDolphin » Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:06 pm

Thanks, I have added some debug logging to roll out with the next update. This is only in curse song, but hopefully will help us track down why all of these are failing.

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Re: Cursesong doesn't trigger - Abilities not triggering when AOE.

Post by Inordinate » Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:59 pm

DangerDolphin wrote:
Thu Jan 07, 2021 12:06 pm
Thanks, I have added some debug logging to roll out with the next update. This is only in curse song, but hopefully will help us track down why all of these are failing.
Mass Haste is pretty bad about it but I would see if said debugging could be applied to that particular spell with how much more often it's used compared to curse songs.
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Re: Cursesong doesn't trigger - Abilities not triggering when AOE.

Post by Dreams » Mon Jan 11, 2021 6:26 pm

Today I'm noticing this is happening for normal bard song more often, occasionally not applying to my character either.

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Re: Cursesong doesn't trigger - Abilities not triggering when AOE.

Post by A MAN DRUNK ON POWER » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:51 am

Today in RDI I saw this happen with Remove Fear from someone else (they targeted it on a party member who was fear'd, and it literally did nothing to the person it was targeted on lol), Last Stand (didn't heal me, didn't freeze dragon near me), PDK fear (didn't trigger for some enemies in range), and a LOT for curse song (just straight up not affecting enemies). Papa bless you Dolphin and other devs who try to fix this

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Re: Cursesong doesn't trigger - Abilities not triggering when AOE.

Post by DangerDolphin » Tue Jan 19, 2021 6:34 pm

This is a Beamdog issue https://github.com/Beamdog/nwn-issues/issues/52

I have however been debugging and optimising the curse song code in an attempt to improve things on our end.

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