Ward - Protect not blocking scrying?

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Nekonecro
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Ward - Protect not blocking scrying?

Post by Nekonecro » Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:38 pm

Description
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Seems like the ward is sometimes not blocking scrying

Steps to reproduce
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Use ward - protect to stop scrying

Expected result
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Can't be scried for the duration of the ward

Actual result
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The scry target is still getting messages of being scried (They're able to detect it)

Notes
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The warder is a Loremaster, unsure if it's a bug with the ward itself or the Loremaster variant.
Also it's a bit spotty on if it works or not.

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Re: Ward - Protect not blocking scrying?

Post by Hazard » Tue Jun 29, 2021 4:40 pm

This happened to me as well but haven't been able to recreate it. Only happened once. Warder was also a Loremaster.

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Re: Ward - Protect not blocking scrying?

Post by Party in the forest at midnight » Tue Jun 29, 2021 6:36 pm

The warding rune no longer disappears when the spell fades. That could be one issue- The spell faded but you didn't realize it because the VFX is still there. I have no idea if there are separate issues with loremaster -ward not working.

EDIT: While I'm here, the warding rune ring is now sunken into the ground, that happened after the last NWN update. Is there any way the VFX could be moved up a little so it doesn't disappear under the floor?

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Re: Ward - Protect not blocking scrying?

Post by Party in the forest at midnight » Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:27 pm

This is still an issue. After more testing, it seems to be a problem with loremaster wards. Even after placing a fresh ward, people can scry through it.

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Re: Ward - Protect not blocking scrying?

Post by Batrachophrenoboocosmomachia » Fri Jul 30, 2021 7:05 pm

There's only one Ward spell, and both regular casters and Loremasters use that same codeblock. I'll have to verify this later but any additional testing info that might save me time will get this solved faster, since there aren't too many moving parts in here and from a quick skim it looks fine.

Will take a look when I can.

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Re: Ward - Protect not blocking scrying?

Post by neverwinternightly » Fri Jul 30, 2021 8:58 pm

I can confirm it isn't just the loremaster ward I've noticed pierced lately. Really have no idea what the cause might be though. I've noticed it twice in past week or so. Ward belonged to a healer.

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Re: Ward - Protect not blocking scrying?

Post by Blood on my Lips » Sat Jul 31, 2021 12:13 am

I did notice last night that the visual seemed to last an awfully long time. The ward in question was NOT cast by a loremaster.

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Re: Ward - Protect not blocking scrying?

Post by Party in the forest at midnight » Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:22 am

These are 2 separate issues.

The -ward graphic never fades, even for my wizard.

Loremasters using loremaster -ward are noticing that they are being scried, even if they freshly put the -ward down. Maybe this applies to wizards too? I don't know, will try and test it with other players. But they can confirm that it is an issue with loremaster -ward.

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Re: Ward - Protect not blocking scrying?

Post by Aren » Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:06 am

Can epic diviner specialists pierce ward?

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Re: Ward - Protect not blocking scrying?

Post by Hazard » Sun Aug 01, 2021 12:21 pm

Aren wrote:
Sun Aug 01, 2021 11:06 am
Can epic diviner specialists pierce ward?
They can't, or shouldn't be able to. AFAIK.

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Re: Ward - Protect not blocking scrying?

Post by Batrachophrenoboocosmomachia » Mon Aug 02, 2021 3:05 pm

Status of this? Experimental workaround live.

Done.


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Re: Ward - Protect not blocking scrying?

Post by Party in the forest at midnight » Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:06 pm

So far haven't been able to bypass any form of warding, but it's limited by cooldowns. I'm going to level a div spec wizard and will report more later.

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