Maelstrom Pike removes expertise

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Maelstrom Pike removes expertise

Post by Myles Magnus » Wed Jan 26, 2022 5:04 am

Description
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Steps to reproduce
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Hit something with the Maelstrom pike while in expertise.

Expected result
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I hit the thing and I still keep my expertise.

Actual result
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The drown from the pike causes me to go out of expertise.

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Re: Maelstrom Pike removes expertise

Post by Myles Magnus » Wed Jan 04, 2023 6:37 pm

This has been broken for a year. Any update?
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Re: Maelstrom Pike removes expertise

Post by Helsing » Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:51 pm

I feel the OnHit Drown effect very underwhelming, it will be eaten by DR, and disable expertise. Could this be fixed and buffed a bit?
Hazard wrote: Doing that on a non-mundane requires constant stops to rest, chugging alcohol whenever your spells start wearing off/get dispelled, and with casters, you're going to get through that dungeon once in the time a 25/5 can get through it 10+ times.

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Re: Maelstrom Pike removes expertise

Post by Myles Magnus » Mon Jan 09, 2023 12:57 am

Helsing wrote:
Sun Jan 08, 2023 12:51 pm
I feel the OnHit Drown effect very underwhelming, it will be eaten by DR, and disable expertise. Could this be fixed and buffed a bit?
I wasn't going to mention it, but yes the pike's drown ability did about 20 average damage till some unannounced update nerfed this bonus down to an average of about 5, which often gets reduced to 0 by DR. The Maelstrom is now just a worse version of the dragon hunter pike which to be honest is already not very good.
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Re: Maelstrom Pike removes expertise

Post by Good Character » Mon Jan 09, 2023 2:12 am

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This weapon suffers the same issue as the original Assuran's Retribution.

The issue with this special effect is it's not really On-Hit: Drown but rather On-Hit: Cast Spell. Since spellcasting drops expertise, this weapon drops expertise.

The difficulty with this weapon is that while its base weapon isn't that great its added properties are fantastic. Even simply adding 2 bonus Slashing would completely outclass the Dragon Swordspear due to Sonic being better than Electric.

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