ESF Perform + Bard Song/Curse Song issues

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ESF Perform + Bard Song/Curse Song issues

Post by Arigard » Tue Oct 18, 2022 7:21 pm

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I know it has been documented for specific curses/songs before, but thought I would bring attention to the more general elements of curse song/bard song, especially the ESF Perform focuses, that aren't working.

Steps to reproduce
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Use bard/curse song.

Expected result
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Ability drop on enemies, spell failure, poison save reduction, scry immunity - really a fair amount of things that are listed on the wiki as bard/curse song bonuses - outside of the base AC/AB/DMG bonuses - do not seem to be registering correctly.

Actual result
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A range of curses were tested, venomous verse, doom-tempest dirge, lich lyrics etc - the esf benefits did not seem to work and further, especially on curses like venomous verse the negatives to specific saves like poison also didn't seem to be working properly.

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Misc Notes
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Bard/Curse song is a base component to a core class that effects both mechanical and RP potential. Scrying immunity for example being broken leaves players open to certain strands of RP that they will have thought themselves protected from - and I'm not sure how many are aware that the effects are not working as intended - it would be really good to get this looked at.

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PGCC/ Underdark

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Re: ESF Perform + Bard Song/Curse Song issues

Post by Aeribelle » Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:36 pm

I already submitted this to DM Starfish, but will include this since the issue was raised again.

My own testing shows:

1 Pilfering Poem (Works)
2 Sea Shanty (BROKEN)
3 Draconic Dirge (untested)
4 Healing Hymn (Works)
5 Frostbound Round (Works)
6 Sentinel's Song (Works)
7 Slime's Serenade (untested)
8 Masking Melody (BROKEN)
9 Selfish Solo (Works)
10 Traveller's Tune (Works)
11 Purser's Piece (Works)
12 Arcane Anthem (BROKEN)
13 Deceptive Ditty (BROKEN)
14 Lunar Lullaby (untested)
15 Miner's Melody (BROKEN)
16 Ranger's Round (untested)
17 Blacksmith's Ballad (untested)

Didn't have curse song on the test character to test those interactions.
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Re: ESF Perform + Bard Song/Curse Song issues

Post by Morgy » Thu Oct 20, 2022 12:27 am

The ones that seem to work are all ones that use pre-existing spells/features/skills, right? Knock, poison/disease immunity, see invis..

Masking, Miner's, Deceptive and Arcane are definitely more Arelith specific coding.

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Re: ESF Perform + Bard Song/Curse Song issues

Post by Luingar » Thu Oct 20, 2022 3:29 pm

Just died because sea shanty does not grant waterbreathing with esf. Alas.

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Re: ESF Perform + Bard Song/Curse Song issues

Post by Sincra » Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:45 am

Aeribelle wrote:
Wed Oct 19, 2022 9:36 pm
I already submitted this to DM Starfish, but will include this since the issue was raised again.

My own testing shows:

1 Pilfering Poem (Works)
2 Sea Shanty (BROKEN)
3 Draconic Dirge (untested)
4 Healing Hymn (Works)
5 Frostbound Round (Works)
6 Sentinel's Song (Works)
7 Slime's Serenade (untested)
8 Masking Melody (BROKEN)
9 Selfish Solo (Works)
10 Traveller's Tune (Works)
11 Purser's Piece (Works)
12 Arcane Anthem (BROKEN)
13 Deceptive Ditty (BROKEN)
14 Lunar Lullaby (untested)
15 Miner's Melody (BROKEN)
16 Ranger's Round (untested)
17 Blacksmith's Ballad (untested)

Didn't have curse song on the test character to test those interactions.
Is this still up to date, with the exception due removal of scry prot?
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Re: ESF Perform + Bard Song/Curse Song issues

Post by Sandrow » Sat Nov 26, 2022 7:28 am

Sincra wrote:
Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:45 am

Is this still up to date, with the exception due removal of scry prot?
From my test.

2 Sea Shanty (BROKEN)
3 Draconic Dirge (Wroks)
7 Slime's Serenade (Works)
13 Deceptive Ditty (BROKEN)
14 Lunar Lullaby (untested)
15 Miner's Melody (BROKEN)
16 Ranger's Round (untested)
17 Blacksmith's Ballad (untested)

Specific save and ac are not simple to test. But 2 Sea Shanty, 13 Deceptive Ditty (BROKEN), 15 Miner's Melody (BROKEN)
are certainly broken.

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Re: ESF Perform + Bard Song/Curse Song issues

Post by Sincra » Sun Nov 27, 2022 5:54 pm

Fix is in the pipeline.
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Re: ESF Perform + Bard Song/Curse Song issues

Post by Sandrow » Wed Nov 30, 2022 1:13 am

Seems they are still broken.
Tested sea shanty and Miner's Melody

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Re: ESF Perform + Bard Song/Curse Song issues

Post by Rei_Jin » Wed Nov 30, 2022 2:25 am

Miner’s Melody worked for me

Haven’t tested the others

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