Cleric Path's Shield Proficiency Bugged?
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Cleric Path's Shield Proficiency Bugged?
Description:
Game-Wiki states that a healer cleric should be able to wield a small shield without incurring penalties.
Not too long ago Healer Path Clerics had their shield proficiency removed unless they multi-classed, for quite a while I thought this was still the case, as I've never been able to equip any shields and my Cleric is a level 30 Healer Path Cleric.
However I bumped into another Healer path cleric that pointed out to me the wiki now states I should be able to use a small shield, and their newly made Healer Path Cleric has the ability to wield it.
However when I attempt to equip a shield of any size on my Healer Cleric, I get the in game error message stating I do not have the proficiency to equip that item.
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Steps to reproduce:
Attempted to Equip a shield on my Healer Path Cleric
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Expected result:
The shield is able to be equipped.
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Actual result:
Error message stating I do not have the required Proficiency, and the item is not equipped.
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Game-Wiki states that a healer cleric should be able to wield a small shield without incurring penalties.
Not too long ago Healer Path Clerics had their shield proficiency removed unless they multi-classed, for quite a while I thought this was still the case, as I've never been able to equip any shields and my Cleric is a level 30 Healer Path Cleric.
However I bumped into another Healer path cleric that pointed out to me the wiki now states I should be able to use a small shield, and their newly made Healer Path Cleric has the ability to wield it.
However when I attempt to equip a shield of any size on my Healer Cleric, I get the in game error message stating I do not have the proficiency to equip that item.
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Steps to reproduce:
Attempted to Equip a shield on my Healer Path Cleric
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Expected result:
The shield is able to be equipped.
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Actual result:
Error message stating I do not have the required Proficiency, and the item is not equipped.
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Which Server(s)?
All servers
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Gaming Platform(s)?
PC
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Re: Cleric Path's Shield Proficiency Bugged?
Path doesn't inherently provide you Shield Proficiency. Rather, it's doing as you mentioned above in case you were to ever obtain the Shield Proficiency feat.
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Re: Cleric Path's Shield Proficiency Bugged?
I don't think this is accurate, because I have met pure healer path clerics whom has the proficiency now.
That or it's bugged for new characters. In some way this isn't working quite as intended, as it currently stands my Healer Path cleric cannot equip shields at all at level 30, but fresh healer path clerics seem to be able to.
That or it's bugged for new characters. In some way this isn't working quite as intended, as it currently stands my Healer Path cleric cannot equip shields at all at level 30, but fresh healer path clerics seem to be able to.
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Re: Cleric Path's Shield Proficiency Bugged?
Have you confirmed if they're picking up the feat on their own as a General feat?Kalthariam wrote: ↑Sat Oct 22, 2022 4:55 pmI don't think this is accurate, because I have met pure healer path clerics whom has the proficiency now.
That or it's bugged for new characters. In some way this isn't working quite as intended, as it currently stands my Healer Path cleric cannot equip shields at all at level 30, but fresh healer path clerics seem to be able to.
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Re: Cleric Path's Shield Proficiency Bugged?
Clerics Innately have shield Prof.
Originally healers lost the ability to use shields during the rework. But now the Wiki states they should be able to equip shields. (Which my healer path clerics is not able to)
The Character I spoke with states they did not eat a general feat for it, and is a pure healer path cleric.
Originally healers lost the ability to use shields during the rework. But now the Wiki states they should be able to equip shields. (Which my healer path clerics is not able to)
The Character I spoke with states they did not eat a general feat for it, and is a pure healer path cleric.
Re: Cleric Path's Shield Proficiency Bugged?
viewtopic.php?p=286220#p286220
Weapon Proficiency: None
Armor Proficiency: None
wiki already said none for armor heal path, added reminder for wep
Weapon Proficiency: None
Armor Proficiency: None
wiki already said none for armor heal path, added reminder for wep
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Re: Cleric Path's Shield Proficiency Bugged?
Then why can freshly made Healer path clerics equip small shields, but my older one cannot?
Also we have weapon proficiencies again, simple only, as we can use magic staves again.
Is this a bug where new Healer path clerics aren't having restrictions properly applied? Or was a change reverted?
That's what I'm trying to figure out.
I did poke at this on the PGCC, and made a cleric got it to pick the healer path token, and had the ability to equip a small shield.
Also we have weapon proficiencies again, simple only, as we can use magic staves again.
Is this a bug where new Healer path clerics aren't having restrictions properly applied? Or was a change reverted?
That's what I'm trying to figure out.
I did poke at this on the PGCC, and made a cleric got it to pick the healer path token, and had the ability to equip a small shield.
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Re: Cleric Path's Shield Proficiency Bugged?
Weapons on Arelith go the 3.5 route and thus can always be equipped, regardless of proficiency. You merely take a harsh AB penalty if you're not proficient, as stated in the SRD:
As for shields, I'm not sure if they changed it to be similar to weapons, but I'd think not, since most characters without Shield Proficiency don't seem to be able to equip one.D&D 3.5 SRD wrote:When using a weapon with which you are not proficient, you take a –4 penalty on attack rolls.
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Re: Cleric Path's Shield Proficiency Bugged?
Well I did a -relevel, as a suggestion by other players, and I can now equip a shield as a pure 30 healer cleric, just like the newer Healer cleric told me they were able to do.
If I am getting any negatives for doing so it doesn't seem to be anything major at all. I am not experiencing any spell failure, and to be frank as a healer cleric weilding a staff of life and a shield, I really don't care about my AB anyways, the 6 AC quite a bit more interest, it's nice being able to break 30 AC.
If I am getting any negatives for doing so it doesn't seem to be anything major at all. I am not experiencing any spell failure, and to be frank as a healer cleric weilding a staff of life and a shield, I really don't care about my AB anyways, the 6 AC quite a bit more interest, it's nice being able to break 30 AC.