Spell component pouch breaks

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Spell component pouch breaks

Post by Quizmar » Sat Apr 13, 2024 8:33 am

UPDATE we've learned a few things, here's what I know about the situation:

  1. bug happens when portalling/loading into server
  2. bug is unrelated to number of charges remaining
  3. It breaks and doesnt allow any to be taken, not just specific spells/feats
  4. it is fixed by dropping and picking up again
  5. it happens no matter how many spell component pouches are available, they break separately though
  6. it begins working again immediately if "do not destroy pouch" is disabled
    Description
    Sometimes spell component pouch is treated as empty, or not in inventory (sorcerer)
    Steps to reproduce
    Cast high level spell, happens more often after server reset or portaling
    Expected result
    spell is cast
    Actual result
    spell is not cast (straight to jail, do not pass go, do not collect 200$)
    Misc Notes
    Requires pouch to be dropped, and picked up again to work
    Which Server(s)?
    all
Last edited by Quizmar on Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:57 am, edited 3 times in total.

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Re: Spell component pouch breaks

Post by Iceborn » Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:40 am

This is very odd.
Are you using regular spells or is there any funky epic spell command or new class system at work?
Also, do you have more than one spell component pouch?

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Re: Spell component pouch breaks

Post by Quizmar » Sat Apr 13, 2024 4:53 pm

Iceborn wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:40 am

This is very odd.
Are you using regular spells or is there any funky epic spell command or new class system at work?
Also, do you have more than one spell component pouch?

this has been a recurring issue over a few months and characters. I've been a sorcerer, and no funny epic spells on this current character. In the past i've had multiple spell components and similar issues have arisen, but right now I only have one.


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Re: Spell component pouch breaks

Post by Quizmar » Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:33 am

Iceborn wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:40 am

This is very odd.
Are you using regular spells or is there any funky epic spell command or new class system at work?
Also, do you have more than one spell component pouch?

i managed to grab a screenshot
https://imgur.com/DOkvYiq


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Re: Spell component pouch breaks

Post by Iceborn » Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:57 am

Quizmar wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 4:53 pm
Iceborn wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:40 am

This is very odd.
Are you using regular spells or is there any funky epic spell command or new class system at work?
Also, do you have more than one spell component pouch?

this has been a recurring issue over a few months and characters. I've been a sorcerer, and no funny epic spells on this current character. In the past i've had multiple spell components and similar issues have arisen, but right now I only have one.

Quizmar wrote:
Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:33 am
Iceborn wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:40 am

This is very odd.
Are you using regular spells or is there any funky epic spell command or new class system at work?
Also, do you have more than one spell component pouch?

i managed to grab a screenshot
https://imgur.com/DOkvYiq

Yet I see you are casting Planar Conduit :P
Does it happen with any other spell?

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Re: Spell component pouch breaks

Post by Quizmar » Sun Apr 14, 2024 1:37 am

Iceborn wrote:
Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:57 am
Quizmar wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 4:53 pm
Iceborn wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:40 am

This is very odd.
Are you using regular spells or is there any funky epic spell command or new class system at work?
Also, do you have more than one spell component pouch?

this has been a recurring issue over a few months and characters. I've been a sorcerer, and no funny epic spells on this current character. In the past i've had multiple spell components and similar issues have arisen, but right now I only have one.

Quizmar wrote:
Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:33 am
Iceborn wrote:
Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:40 am

This is very odd.
Are you using regular spells or is there any funky epic spell command or new class system at work?
Also, do you have more than one spell component pouch?

i managed to grab a screenshot
https://imgur.com/DOkvYiq

Yet I see you are casting Planar Conduit :P
Does it happen with any other spell?

Yes, it happens with other spells as well. It's not that it works for some spells and features and not others. The pouch either breaks or it doesn't. It happened before I had conduit on this character


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Re: Spell component pouch breaks

Post by Iceborn » Sun Apr 14, 2024 4:13 am

I've been taking a look at the code to figure this out, though I don't see anything immediately egregious.
Do you have the 'do not destroy spell pouch' setting enabled?

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Re: Spell component pouch breaks

Post by Quizmar » Sun Apr 14, 2024 4:17 am

Iceborn wrote:
Sun Apr 14, 2024 4:13 am

I've been taking a look at the code to figure this out, though I don't see anything immediately egregious.
Do you have the 'do not destroy spell pouch' setting enabled?

Yes I do, but the amount of charges inside the pouch dont seem to effect when it happens, sometimes its been full, sometimes almost empty


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Re: Spell component pouch breaks

Post by Iceborn » Sun Apr 14, 2024 4:47 am

Newp. I can't find anything that would point to a bug, so it's either something complicated going on with NWN and Gigaschatten messing with the tags and identifiers of the items mid-loading - which I am not touching with a 10 foot pole - or it's something too obvious that I can't seem to notice.
Does it also happen the PGCC server?

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Re: Spell component pouch breaks

Post by Quizmar » Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:01 am

Iceborn wrote:
Sun Apr 14, 2024 4:47 am

Newp. I can't find anything that would point to a bug, so it's either something complicated going on with NWN and Gigaschatten messing with the tags and identifiers of the items mid-loading - which I am not touching with a 10 foot pole - or it's something too obvious that I can't seem to notice.
Does it also happen the PGCC server?

I don't know if it happens on PGCC, I don't spend a lot of time on there, and the bug only happens every so often, I can't recreate it


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Re: Spell component pouch breaks

Post by Carrion Eater » Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:17 am

Just to try and cover more angles: do you have more than one spell component pouch?

I have this problem too, though I have kinda figured it out for myself. I carry 3-5, and always have "Do Not Destroy Spell Pouch" enabled. Though most of the time it will start taking from the next pouch, sometimes it will continue to try and use the depleted pouch. Similarly, if I have one pouch with 50 charges, and pick up an empty pouch, since the empty pouch is the last one I picked up/"used", it will automatically try to pull from the empty pouch (and fail).

Sometimes I get caught off-guard and have to re-use a pouch or drop and pick up again to get it back in order.


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Re: Spell component pouch breaks

Post by Quizmar » Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:26 am

Carrion Eater wrote:
Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:17 am

Just to try and cover more angles: do you have more than one spell component pouch?

I have this problem too, though I have kinda figured it out for myself. I carry 3-5, and always have "Do Not Destroy Spell Pouch" enabled. Though most of the time it will start taking from the next pouch, sometimes it will continue to try and use the depleted pouch. Similarly, if I have one pouch with 50 charges, and pick up an empty pouch, since the empty pouch is the last one I picked up/"used", it will automatically try to pull from the empty pouch (and fail).

Sometimes I get caught off-guard and have to re-use a pouch or drop and pick up again to get it back in order.

This character only has one, it happened just as much with a former character, who would carry 3. When it happens, none of the pouches would be empty


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Re: Spell component pouch breaks

Post by Lindos » Sun Apr 14, 2024 11:13 am

Iceborn wrote:
Sun Apr 14, 2024 4:47 am

Newp. I can't find anything that would point to a bug, so it's either something complicated going on with NWN and Gigaschatten messing with the tags and identifiers of the items mid-loading - which I am not touching with a 10 foot pole - or it's something too obvious that I can't seem to notice.
Does it also happen the PGCC server?

Spell component usage is turned off on PGCC

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