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Quizmar
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by Quizmar » Sat Apr 13, 2024 8:33 am
UPDATE we've learned a few things, here's what I know about the situation:
- bug happens when portalling/loading into server
- bug is unrelated to number of charges remaining
- It breaks and doesnt allow any to be taken, not just specific spells/feats
- it is fixed by dropping and picking up again
- it happens no matter how many spell component pouches are available, they break separately though
- it begins working again immediately if "do not destroy pouch" is disabled
Description
Sometimes spell component pouch is treated as empty, or not in inventory (sorcerer)
Steps to reproduce
Cast high level spell, happens more often after server reset or portaling
Expected result
spell is cast
Actual result
spell is not cast (straight to jail, do not pass go, do not collect 200$)
Misc Notes
Requires pouch to be dropped, and picked up again to work
Which Server(s)?
all
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Quizmar on Mon Apr 15, 2024 7:57 am, edited 3 times in total.
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Iceborn
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by Iceborn » Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:40 am
This is very odd.
Are you using regular spells or is there any funky epic spell command or new class system at work?
Also, do you have more than one spell component pouch?
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Quizmar
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by Quizmar » Sat Apr 13, 2024 4:53 pm
Iceborn wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:40 am
This is very odd.
Are you using regular spells or is there any funky epic spell command or new class system at work?
Also, do you have more than one spell component pouch?
this has been a recurring issue over a few months and characters. I've been a sorcerer, and no funny epic spells on this current character. In the past i've had multiple spell components and similar issues have arisen, but right now I only have one.
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Quizmar
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by Quizmar » Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:33 am
Iceborn wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:40 am
This is very odd.
Are you using regular spells or is there any funky epic spell command or new class system at work?
Also, do you have more than one spell component pouch?
i managed to grab a screenshot
https://imgur.com/DOkvYiq
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Iceborn
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by Iceborn » Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:57 am
Quizmar wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 4:53 pm
Iceborn wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:40 am
This is very odd.
Are you using regular spells or is there any funky epic spell command or new class system at work?
Also, do you have more than one spell component pouch?
this has been a recurring issue over a few months and characters. I've been a sorcerer, and no funny epic spells on this current character. In the past i've had multiple spell components and similar issues have arisen, but right now I only have one.
Quizmar wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:33 am
Iceborn wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:40 am
This is very odd.
Are you using regular spells or is there any funky epic spell command or new class system at work?
Also, do you have more than one spell component pouch?
i managed to grab a screenshot
https://imgur.com/DOkvYiq
Yet I see you are casting Planar Conduit
Does it happen with any other spell?
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Quizmar
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by Quizmar » Sun Apr 14, 2024 1:37 am
Iceborn wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:57 am
Quizmar wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 4:53 pm
Iceborn wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:40 am
This is very odd.
Are you using regular spells or is there any funky epic spell command or new class system at work?
Also, do you have more than one spell component pouch?
this has been a recurring issue over a few months and characters. I've been a sorcerer, and no funny epic spells on this current character. In the past i've had multiple spell components and similar issues have arisen, but right now I only have one.
Quizmar wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 12:33 am
Iceborn wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2024 11:40 am
This is very odd.
Are you using regular spells or is there any funky epic spell command or new class system at work?
Also, do you have more than one spell component pouch?
i managed to grab a screenshot
https://imgur.com/DOkvYiq
Yet I see you are casting Planar Conduit
Does it happen with any other spell?
Yes, it happens with other spells as well. It's not that it works for some spells and features and not others. The pouch either breaks or it doesn't. It happened before I had conduit on this character
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Iceborn
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by Iceborn » Sun Apr 14, 2024 4:13 am
I've been taking a look at the code to figure this out, though I don't see anything immediately egregious.
Do you have the 'do not destroy spell pouch' setting enabled?
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Quizmar
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by Quizmar » Sun Apr 14, 2024 4:17 am
Iceborn wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 4:13 am
I've been taking a look at the code to figure this out, though I don't see anything immediately egregious.
Do you have the 'do not destroy spell pouch' setting enabled?
Yes I do, but the amount of charges inside the pouch dont seem to effect when it happens, sometimes its been full, sometimes almost empty
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Iceborn
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by Iceborn » Sun Apr 14, 2024 4:47 am
Newp. I can't find anything that would point to a bug, so it's either something complicated going on with NWN and Gigaschatten messing with the tags and identifiers of the items mid-loading - which I am not touching with a 10 foot pole - or it's something too obvious that I can't seem to notice.
Does it also happen the PGCC server?
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Quizmar
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by Quizmar » Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:01 am
Iceborn wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 4:47 am
Newp. I can't find anything that would point to a bug, so it's either something complicated going on with NWN and Gigaschatten messing with the tags and identifiers of the items mid-loading - which I am not touching with a 10 foot pole - or it's something too obvious that I can't seem to notice.
Does it also happen the PGCC server?
I don't know if it happens on PGCC, I don't spend a lot of time on there, and the bug only happens every so often, I can't recreate it
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by Carrion Eater » Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:17 am
Just to try and cover more angles: do you have more than one spell component pouch?
I have this problem too, though I have kinda figured it out for myself. I carry 3-5, and always have "Do Not Destroy Spell Pouch" enabled. Though most of the time it will start taking from the next pouch, sometimes it will continue to try and use the depleted pouch. Similarly, if I have one pouch with 50 charges, and pick up an empty pouch, since the empty pouch is the last one I picked up/"used", it will automatically try to pull from the empty pouch (and fail).
Sometimes I get caught off-guard and have to re-use a pouch or drop and pick up again to get it back in order.
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Quizmar
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by Quizmar » Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:26 am
Carrion Eater wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 5:17 am
Just to try and cover more angles: do you have more than one spell component pouch?
I have this problem too, though I have kinda figured it out for myself. I carry 3-5, and always have "Do Not Destroy Spell Pouch" enabled. Though most of the time it will start taking from the next pouch, sometimes it will continue to try and use the depleted pouch. Similarly, if I have one pouch with 50 charges, and pick up an empty pouch, since the empty pouch is the last one I picked up/"used", it will automatically try to pull from the empty pouch (and fail).
Sometimes I get caught off-guard and have to re-use a pouch or drop and pick up again to get it back in order.
This character only has one, it happened just as much with a former character, who would carry 3. When it happens, none of the pouches would be empty
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Lindos
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by Lindos » Sun Apr 14, 2024 11:13 am
Iceborn wrote: ↑Sun Apr 14, 2024 4:47 am
Newp. I can't find anything that would point to a bug, so it's either something complicated going on with NWN and Gigaschatten messing with the tags and identifiers of the items mid-loading - which I am not touching with a 10 foot pole - or it's something too obvious that I can't seem to notice.
Does it also happen the PGCC server?
Spell component usage is turned off on PGCC
Discord: Lindos#9637