Harbinger/Dirgesinger Bugs

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Melchizedek14
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Harbinger/Dirgesinger Bugs

Post by Melchizedek14 » Tue Apr 16, 2024 5:16 am

Description of Bug Experienced:
Using Dirge of Harvest removes +2 Vampiric Regeneration (temporary) from Harbinger's cursed weapon. Curse can only be reapplied to weapon after resting (sometimes also bugs and doesn't clear curse) or waiting 24 hours.

Steps to reproduce the Bug:

  • Select following feats when leveling Harbinger to at least level 11 - Herald of the Grave, Improved Weapon Hex.
  • Select Dirge of Harvest when leveling Dirgesinger.
  • Cast Harbinger's Weapon Hex: Curse of Mortality on self/weapon
  • While wielding cursed weapon, use Dirgesinger's Dirge of Harvest

Expected Result:

  • Harbinger's Improved Weapon Hex will grant cursed weapon +2 Vampiric Regeneration
  • Dirge of Harvest damages nearby enemies, heals user for a portion, gives all allies +1 Vampiric Regeneration per 2 Dirgesinger levels for duration of curse.
  • Both bonuses are considered temporary. I would assume Harbinger's Weapon Hex takes priority or with Herald of the Grave they work together somehow.

Actual Result:

  • Dirge of Harvest overwrites Harbinger's Weapon Hex and all vampiric regeneration is lost when Dirge of Harvest expires.
  • Harbinger's Improved Weapon Hex cannot be recast until cleared by resting or 24 hours. Resting frequently does not clear the curse, even if the weapon is still equipped when resting.

Additional Information/Notes

  • Harbinger's Weapon Hex cooldown is only 3 minutes. Easy solution would be to remove the restriction against casting it on the same weapon again and player would have to reapply after using Dirge of Harvest. Not ideal, but seems easy and I don't see the point of preventing recast on the same weapon anyway.
  • Other solutions: 1) Let curses stack, 2) Give Dirge of Harvest only a temporary overwrite and Weapon Hex's Vampiric Regen is restored when Harvest expires, 3) Do not allow Harvest to overwrite weapon hex. But this would essentially be a nerf since a lvl 10 Dirgesinger would normally get +5 vampiric.

Melchizedek14
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Re: Harbinger/Dirgesinger Bugs

Post by Melchizedek14 » Tue Apr 16, 2024 5:30 am

Description of Bug Experienced:
Cursed Armaments' interfere with Cleric Evangelist dips - Spellcasting

Steps to reproduce the Bug:

  • Select feat Cursed Armaments' when leveling Harbinger. Herald of the Grave feat has no affect on this bug.
  • Take at least 3 levels in Cleric Evangelist
  • Wear heavy armor and a large (not greensteel) shield or tower shield
  • Cast any spell from the Harbinger's spellbook that is also in Cleric's spellbook

Expected Result:

  • Cursed Armaments' gives -50% spell failure to both armor and shield (-50% each). Character should have zero or negative arcane spell failure rate.
  • Spell should work fine as they do with this setup minus Cleric Evangelist dip.

Actual Result:

  • Combat log reports spell failure percentage when equipping both armor and shield
  • Casting a Harbinger only spell works fine.
  • Casting a Harbinger spell that also appears in cleric spellbook results in high arcane spell failure rate.
  • Casting a Cleric spell results in high spell failure rate, even though the effective spell failure rate for both heavy armor and shield should be zero or negative.

Additional Information/Notes

  • Cleric Evangelist does say in Wiki class description that wielding a tower shield will result in a spell failure chance, but spell failure is happening even with large shield or no shield with heavy armor.
  • Class synergy with Cursed Armaments', especially with Herald of the Grave also taken, thematically should alleviate this I would think.
Last edited by Melchizedek14 on Tue Apr 16, 2024 5:46 am, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: Harbinger/Dirgesinger Bugs

Post by Melchizedek14 » Tue Apr 16, 2024 5:39 am

Description of Bug Experienced:
Cursed Armaments interfering with Dirgesinger Curse Song and Cleric Evangelist Bard and Curse Songs even with Herald of the Grave feat.

Steps to reproduce the Bug:

  • Take Herald of the Grave and Cursed Armaments feats when leveling Harbinger to at least level 11.
  • Take at least 1 level in Dirgesinger to gain curse song.
  • Optionally add 6 levels in Cleric Evangelist to gain Bard song or Bard and Curse song if Dirgesinger skipped.

Expected Result:

  • Class synergy and Harbinger class feats allow curses and songs to function normally.

Actual Result:

  • Curse song and bard song both receive -3 effective song level penalty for wearing heavy armor or tower shield

Additional Information/Notes

  • The Bard Wiki page does list the -3 penalty for wearing armor or tower shield.
  • Taking both Herald of the Grave and Cursed Armaments seems like the class synergy should remove the penalty, at least for curse songs.

Melchizedek14
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Re: Harbinger/Dirgesinger Bugs

Post by Melchizedek14 » Tue Apr 16, 2024 5:42 am

And just a couple suggestions for Harbinger/Dirgesinger/Cleric Evangelist

  • Herald of the Grave makes perform a class skill.
  • Cleric Evangelist should have perform as a class skill, at least by level 6 if not sooner.

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