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Shapeshift Merging Question

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 3:27 am
by Miskol
If I already have a piece of equipment that gives +4 to universal saves, and I get another piece of equipment that grants bonus to a specific save, would the universal save and the specific save stack or will it only take the universal save?

Re: Shapeshift Merging Question

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 5:45 am
by Lorkas
They both get applied to your hide item when you shift, but they won't ever both apply. Only the higher bonus will apply to any particular save.

Re: Shapeshift Merging Question

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:09 am
by Midnight In A Perfect World
Lorkas wrote:They both get applied to your hide item when you shift, but they won't ever both apply. Only the higher bonus will apply to any particular save.
Are you certain? + # uni and + # reflex are, for example, two different enchantments. I believe having an item (that merges with your form) with +1 uni and +2 reflex, will result in a +3 reflex.

Re: Shapeshift Merging Question

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:36 am
by Lorkas
They are two different item properties in the same way that "Enhancement Bonus" is a different item property from "Attack Bonus" and "Damage Bonus".

If you have an item with a +2 Enhancement Bonus and +1 Attack Bonus, you only get +2 to attack rolls, not +3.

In the same way, if you have an item that gives you +1 UST and +2 Reflex, your character will get +2 reflex from said item. The properties do not stack when they're on the same item, and in any polymorph form, all of your merged item properties go onto a single item: your character's Hide.

I made a ring in the PGCC exactly as the one you described:
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Here are the character's saves before, then after. They do not stack.
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Re: Shapeshift Merging Question

Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 7:22 pm
by Midnight In A Perfect World
Even after all this time one can keep learning more about NWN mechanics :D
Thank you for the effort!