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Spellcraft and Grenades

Post by Hazard » Sun Jun 06, 2021 8:06 am

Is spellcraft supposed to be adding to your saves VS rogue grenades?

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Re: Spellcraft and Grenades

Post by AstralUniverse » Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:18 am

"Supposed to". Probably an unfortunate game limitation really.

Yeah it is at least on some of them (or used to). It is not added to saves vs choking powder and bombs tho.
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Re: Spellcraft and Grenades

Post by Hazard » Wed Jun 09, 2021 8:29 am

AstralUniverse wrote:
Wed Jun 09, 2021 2:18 am
"Supposed to". Probably an unfortunate game limitation really.

Yeah it is at least on some of them (or used to). It is not added to saves vs choking powder and bombs tho.
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Re: Spellcraft and Grenades

Post by serono » Wed Jun 09, 2021 3:46 pm

Afaik. Spellcraft is not supposed to be adding to your saves VS rogue grenades.
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Re: Spellcraft and Grenades

Post by AstralUniverse » Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:24 am

That bug was never fixed afaik. Its game limitation. The effects on some or most of the grenades is a spell.2da and will check spellcraft. The poison check based bombs/powder are excluded.
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Re: Spellcraft and Grenades

Post by Tabby » Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:34 am

Grenades would be somewhat mundane, and shouldt be considered "spells"
Especially Choking Powder, is a herbalism craft, which is Malyss roots, Mandrake and Harnak.. combined a mundane poison. Not a spell :)
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Re: Spellcraft and Grenades

Post by Kalopsia » Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:21 am

DCs would likely have to be lowered if Spellcraft didn't apply.

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Re: Spellcraft and Grenades

Post by Tabby » Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:09 pm

Dc is fortitude if i remember correctly? And poison based.. and the choking powder do get increased DC relative to rogue levels, i dont remember how much. Again i dont see it as a spell, as its a cooked material..

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