Has leadership head value been altered?

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Has leadership head value been altered?

Post by Conjure » Tue Sep 28, 2021 1:50 pm

Hello,

Just checking to see if I’ve lost my mind or something has changed. :)

Noticing 3095 for max heads which used to be 3440.

That is all! Thank you!

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Re: Has leadership head value been altered?

Post by Skibbles » Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:26 am

I thought max was 3800. Either I'm misremembering or you don't actually have the max and that's why it seems off.
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Re: Has leadership head value been altered?

Post by ltlukoziuz » Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:13 pm

Nah, max is supposed to be 3440. 800 * 4.3 (33 hard ranks)


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Re: Has leadership head value been altered?

Post by MRFTW » Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:32 pm

Iirc the wiki says that skill foci counts for another potential 1.3x.

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Re: Has leadership head value been altered?

Post by ltlukoziuz » Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:56 pm

I don't see it.
2. Bounty Collection:

Value of bounties is increased by 10% per base (Hard) Leadership skill rank.
Skill Focus: Persuade: Renamed Skill Focus: Leadership to match the Arelith specific custom Leadership Feat.
However, both SF and ESF are not soft bonus, so maybe they have tinkered with it? Someone with a character having that should tinker in-game.

One side note though - 3095 is not a valid sum the way system is described. Assuming 800 gp head - you're either getting 3040 with 28 ranks, or 3120 with 29 ranks. It never goes into odd numbers on any bounty size (asides from 50gp head if that exists, but that will never reach 3k)

EDIT: I can test heads on myself in couple hours to at least see if base maths themselves are working (have 21 ranks on character), but iirc they do


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Re: Has leadership head value been altered?

Post by Conjure » Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:26 pm

ltlukoziuz wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:56 pm

One side note though - 3095 is not a valid sum the way system is described. Assuming 800 gp head - you're either getting 3040 with 28 ranks, or 3120 with 29 ranks. It never goes into odd numbers on any bounty size (asides from 50gp head if that exists, but that will never reach 3k)

EDIT: I can test heads on myself in couple hours to at least see if base maths themselves are working (have 21 ranks on character), but iirc they do
Yes I did some math as well, and was quite confused at the values not lining up with anything detailed in the system, hence this post. :)

Perhaps some code got changed with an update?

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Re: Has leadership head value been altered?

Post by Killer on the drive home » Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:54 pm

I believe skill focus leadership shouldn't affect head value. If my understanding was correct, you take it if you're aiming for more party leadership buffs and voting power.
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Re: Has leadership head value been altered?

Post by ltlukoziuz » Wed Sep 29, 2021 5:56 pm

Yep. 800 gold head is giving me only 2260 gold. I have 21 hard ranks so it's supposed to be 800 * 3,1 = 2480 gp. Guess either this should be move to bug reports, or wiki updated with what's the actual percentage (the multiplier I had is 2,825).

Assuming OP did have 33 ranks, their multiplier was 3,86875. If there's any correlation between, feel free to spot it.


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Re: Has leadership head value been altered?

Post by Miskol » Wed Sep 29, 2021 6:47 pm

I can confirm that heads have gone down about 10% in price recently.

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Re: Has leadership head value been altered?

Post by Irongron » Wed Sep 29, 2021 7:35 pm

This I'd true. I approved a very slight drop to the bounty value.

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Re: Has leadership head value been altered?

Post by ltlukoziuz » Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:20 pm

Understandable. It is a ton of gold when going to head heavy spots, after all. Even on non-maxed leadership, few hours can easily convert into tens of thousands in head gold (and then all the other loot also)


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Re: Has leadership head value been altered?

Post by MRFTW » Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:53 am

Killer on the drive home wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 3:54 pm
I believe skill focus leadership shouldn't affect head value. If my understanding was correct, you take it if you're aiming for more party leadership buffs and voting power.
That's probably what I was misremembering. Apologies for the misinfo.

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Re: Has leadership head value been altered?

Post by Conjure » Sun Oct 03, 2021 3:58 pm

Irongron wrote:
Wed Sep 29, 2021 7:35 pm
This I'd true. I approved a very slight drop to the bounty value.
I have closure and understanding now. Thank you!

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