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Toon ungeared AC

Post by legionetrangere » Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:01 pm

Can someone help me out figuring my toon base AC?
He is 10 fighter / 4 bard / 16 dwarven defender

30 tumble plus epic skill focus tumble (+10) to a total of 40
armor skin (+2)
8 dex (-1)
without any gear he currently has 17 AC

my simple math skills tells me that
AC = 2 AC (armor skin) + 8 AC (tumble) -1 AC (dex) + 10 base AC

this would be 19 AC , instead the character sheet shows only 17 AC

Can anyone shed some light on this? :)
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Re: Toon ungeared AC

Post by Wrips » Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:07 pm

Only hard ranks (ranks you put during level up) in Tumble for AC. Which means the highest Tumble AC you can get at level 30 is 6 AC (30 Tumble). ESF: Tumble do not count towards giving AC. Unfortunately, ESF: Tumble is a wasted epic feat.

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Re: Toon ungeared AC

Post by legionetrangere » Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:08 pm

Ahhhhhh
That explains, thanks for replying.
Another question, does Defensive Stance Dodge AC stacks with tumble AC?
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Re: Toon ungeared AC

Post by Good Character » Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:21 pm

Yes. Dodge AC is only capped by its total. The cap for the total is 20. Tumble is not factored into Dodge AC either, luckily.

Realistically that build you have (assuming you use a shield) should reach 51 AC fully geared and warded with Iron Stance on but no Expertise or Haste.

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Re: Toon ungeared AC

Post by legionetrangere » Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:51 am

Good Character wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:21 pm
Yes. Dodge AC is only capped by its total. The cap for the total is 20. Tumble is not factored into Dodge AC either, luckily.

Realistically that build you have (assuming you use a shield) should reach 51 AC fully geared and warded with Iron Stance on but no Expertise or Haste.
Whats the math on that 51 AC, if i may ask? :)
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Re: Toon ungeared AC

Post by Good Character » Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:56 am

legionetrangere wrote:
Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:51 am
Good Character wrote:
Tue Jun 15, 2021 11:21 pm
Yes. Dodge AC is only capped by its total. The cap for the total is 20. Tumble is not factored into Dodge AC either, luckily.

Realistically that build you have (assuming you use a shield) should reach 51 AC fully geared and warded with Iron Stance on but no Expertise or Haste.
Whats the math on that 51 AC, if i may ask? :)
I apologize. It is actually 52. You have access to UMD for Barkskin wands. You can skip Adamantine Helm for 4 deflection AC by using a Shield pot, but I hate how short they are. I frankly would have an Adamantine Helm for PvE content then pop a Shield pot for PvP.

10 BASE
1 DEX
6 TUMBLE
1 BOOT
4 BARKSKIN
1 MAGE ARMOR
3 TOWER
3 ADDY TOWER SHIELD
1 FIGHTER ARMOR AC @ LV 5
1 FIGHTER SHIELD AC @ LV 10
3 ADDY HELM AC
8 FULL PLATE
4 ARMOR AC
2 ARMOR SKIN
4 IRON STANCE

With a decent build, it's on the scale between moderate and kinda good for PvE content. Definitely requires Mounting Resistance.

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