Mojo Kensai Exception

[DirtyDeity]

Mojos are described specifically as potions made of entirely natural ingredients with no help from the weave.

They should work for characters with the Kensai path.

[Mayonnaise]

What do they do, again? I remember them being used for crafting attunement potions, but that's it.

[livingNPC]

It removes negative effects...

According to lore, some Kensai believe only in their own prowess, and would not accept magical or divine assistance, as it hampers their path to the purist warrior. In the arelithian case, it seems they've gone as far as to not drink any potions or use magical items.... I've seen some players commit to that role and not accept buffs from other toons either

[Mayonnaise]

Oh. I can see how that'd be useful for Kensais, then.

[What_Evil_Lurks]

Mojo = Remove Curse

[Ecstatic]

I don't know if this would be possible. As I understand it, the way by which Kensai are barred from magic item use is to mark all spell schools as forbidden for them, thus any item which replicates a spell from any spell school such as mojo replicating remove curse, is unusable. Thus, you could not let them use mojo without also letting them use every other spell from abjuration (I think).

Also not sure why we should make exceptions for one potion brewed from fruit, berries, nuts, and sticks, when cooking is chalk full of them.

[Rattus_norvegicus99]

But they can use skleens ....

[Ecstatic]

Because Skleens don't replicate a spell effect. They can use any item so long as it doesn't replicate an effect with a spell school. I would imagine they could use the divine shield active on a blackguard helmet, for example.

[Tathkar Eisgrim]

Could it be worked around by giving them some form of -'cleanse self' command?

[The Rambling Midget]

Could it be worked around by giving them some form of -'cleanse self' command?

*prays*

[What_Evil_Lurks]

*prays*

This.

[The Man of the Moon]

*prays*

This.

IF

According to lore, some Kensai believe only in their own prowess, and would not accept magical or divine assistance, as it hampers their path to the purist warrior. In the arelithian case, it seems they've gone as far as to not drink any potions or use magical items.... I've seen some players commit to that role and not accept buffs from other toons either

Then prays makes less sense even

[Winter83]

When I played a kensai (Monk), and received a dozen hampering crippling strikes, I simply used the *prays* command, but emoted it as focus inside, a sorta meditation, self-purification etc.

[The Man of the Moon]

When I played a kensai (Monk), and received a dozen hampering crippling strikes, I simply used the *prays* command, but emoted it as focus inside, a sorta meditation, self-purification etc.

Neat

[The Rambling Midget]

I simply used the *prays* command, but emoted it as focus inside, a sorta meditation, self-purification etc.

That sounds a little questionable to me. It's one thing to have your character claim that they're doing something different from what they're really doing, but emoting it seems like a very definitive alteration of fact, beyond the character's influence.

Whatever the case, WYSIWYG applies, so anyone who wants to can call you out.

[Manabi]

Whatever the case, WYSIWYG applies, so anyone who wants to can call you out.

WYSIWYG? Dowutnow?

[The Rambling Midget]

What You See Is What You Get.

It's one of the precepts of RP on Arelith. Any character can claim to be or do anything that they want, but mechanics are the deciding factor in whether or not they actually are what they say they are, or have done what they say they've done.

For Example: One character can say, "'Tis but a scratch!" and the other can say, "A scratch? Your arm's off!" and the latter will be correct, because the arm is, in fact, lopped off and laying on the ground. All the same, the former is free to claim whatever he chooses, like so, "No, it isn't!"


(And if anyone doesn't get that reference, all I can do is weep for your misspent youth.)

[Winter83]

It pretty well fulfilled the WYSIWYG Rambling. Seeing the character kneels and a white light surrounds us. Top it with an emote I fail to see how it is questionable.

[The Rambling Midget]

That it's questionable is just my opinion, but mechanically the character is praying to a deity, and is being helped by that deity, and is not healing himself.

I wouldn't question it if the guy was telling everyone else that he was healing himself all the while knowing full well that he's getting help from elsewhere, but emoting it would be the same as hitting some guy with a sword and then emoting *gives him an orange and pats him on the shoulder*. You put a sword in the guy. Can't really change that.

[DirtyDeity]

Aaahhh!
This turned into a gigantic unrelated discussion.

This suggestion -IS- possible through scripts.

I think it should be so, because the Mojo description EXPLICITLY states that the mojo is NOT magical in ANY way.

As a side-note: I think turning *prays* into a faith-invoked self-disciplinary emote is legit.

P.S.- I am well aware of possibly removing curse with *prays*. But I lead someone on a small quest of 'I can brew this potion, if you help me collect that thing'. And when we finished I was like 'YAY..- Doesn't work. Bummer.'

[What_Evil_Lurks]

Sounds like a perfect time time to convert them to your dark gods.
"Nothing in this realm will save you, young one. The only path is to embrace the Dark Side."