Kalo's Arelith Build & Gear Calculator (Updated: October 01, 2023)

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Kalo's Arelith Build & Gear Calculator (Updated: October 01, 2023)

Post by Kalopsia » Sat Mar 28, 2020 12:20 am

Hello everyone!

This server has been around for years and years, yet wonderful RP and active developers have managed to keep things interesting for everyone. While I greatly enjoy all the new classes, paths and game mechanics, it can be hard to keep track of all those server-specific changes when building a new character.

That's why I've been working on a custom adaptation of Kamiryn's Character Build Calculator in order to save time when planning new Arelith characters. I've been thinking about sharing my work with the community "once it's finished", but such projects are never really finished, are they? :)

Here are the download links:
Download here or check the GitHub Releases

Additionally, here's a link to the old, colorful build calculator: Download
Keep in mind that it no longer receives updates as of Aug 29, 2021.


This spreadsheet includes most of Arelith's custom paths, HAK changes, subraces, gifts and other goodies, all integrated into an overhauled CBC interface, as well as a gear spreadsheet that will let you plan your characters' equipment at level 30 and insert the resulting bonuses in most of CBC's calculations.

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I've only tested the build calculator in Microsoft Excel. Other software may or may not work as expected. Also note that some features might not be working 100% reliably, and certain classes or feats might seem (un-)available even though they are not. PGCC testing is therefore always recommended!

If you notice any issues or have ideas for feature additions, feel free to reply here or message me with the details!

Happy building! :)
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Post by garrbear758 » Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:34 am

This is awesome! Thanks for taking the time to make this.
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Post by Dalenger » Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:59 am

can this get pinned?
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Re: Kalo's Arelith Build Calculator (CBC Edit)

Post by AstralUniverse » Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:47 am

Thank you SO very much Kalopsia!
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Re: Kalo's Arelith Build Calculator (CBC Edit)

Post by Dr. B » Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:00 am

The drop down menu for classes seems to be empty.

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Post by the grim yeeter » Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:47 am

Truly hope that this might aid in increasing mechanical awareness among some players, which consequently - hopefully - improves the quality of forum discussions regarding mechanics.

Is there any reasoning behind the colour scheme? Currently, I find the palette a tad chaotic and rather unpleasant to look at. If there is no legend of any kind, then it might be nice for people to know that they can change the sheet's colours to their liking.
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Re: Kalo's Arelith Build Calculator (CBC Edit)

Post by Kalopsia » Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:55 am

the grim yeeter wrote:
Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:47 am
Truly hope that this might aid in increasing mechanical awareness among some players, which consequently - hopefully - improves the quality of forum discussions regarding mechanics.

Is there any reasoning behind the colour scheme? Currently, I find the palette a tad chaotic and rather unpleasant to look at. If there is no legend of any kind, then it might be nice for people to know that they can change the sheet's colours to their liking.
CBC makes quite heavy use of Excel's conditional formatting features, so editing the colors is more complex than I'd prefer it to be. There is plans to alter the color scheme in future though, just haven't got around to it yet :)

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Re: Kalo's Arelith Build Calculator (CBC Edit)

Post by Lewtzy » Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:36 pm

Question: How would I access a Path on the sheet?
Archer for example. Since AA won't be approved due to the lack of point blank (which archer gains automatically)

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Post by Kalopsia » Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:45 pm

Lewtzy wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:36 pm
Question: How would I access a Path on the sheet?
Archer for example. Since AA won't be approved due to the lack of point blank (which archer gains automatically)
I haven't actually added the Archer path yet, but you can just go with Ranger and manually type the names of the bonus feats Archers get in the Bonus Feat columns :)

If I remember this when I update the sheet, I might add an Archer path option to remove the need for a workaround.

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Post by Lewtzy » Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:55 pm

Ah! Thanks :) I didn't even consider typing that.. in fear of breaking the sheet .. :?
I love the sheet though, thanks for doing this!

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Post by Roger » Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:05 pm

The drop down menu for classes seems to be empty.

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Post by Cataclysm of Iron » Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:16 pm

Roger wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:05 pm
The drop down menu for classes seems to be empty.
Took me a few minutes to suss this out too - you need to scroll right a bit to where it asks you your three classes. Once you've selected those, the level-by-level dropdown on the extreme left will be populated with just those three.
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Post by Roger » Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:36 am

Cataclysm of Iron wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:16 pm
Roger wrote:
Wed Apr 08, 2020 2:05 pm
The drop down menu for classes seems to be empty.
Took me a few minutes to suss this out too - you need to scroll right a bit to where it asks you your three classes. Once you've selected those, the level-by-level dropdown on the extreme left will be populated with just those three.
still have not found it but thanks

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Post by Kalopsia » Fri Apr 10, 2020 9:22 pm

OP updated with a new version!

Changes:
- Added Shaman, Favored Soul, Cavalier, Archer and True Flame to the class selection
- Fixed Warlocks being unable to select Spell Foci

Enjoy! :)

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Post by AstralUniverse » Sat Apr 11, 2020 9:59 am

Dalenger wrote:
Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:59 am
can this get pinned?
Can it?
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Post by Arlen Blake » Mon Apr 13, 2020 6:27 pm

I can't seem to get this to load once I've DL'd it. Apache Open Office opens up, then it just goes into infinite load screen. I'm probably making some dumb mistake or something (not very good with computers) - Does anyone have advice?

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Post by Kalopsia » Mon Apr 13, 2020 7:33 pm

Arlen Blake wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 6:27 pm
I can't seem to get this to load once I've DL'd it. Apache Open Office opens up, then it just goes into infinite load screen. I'm probably making some dumb mistake or something (not very good with computers) - Does anyone have advice?
This has only been tested with Microsoft Excel. I'm not sure if it works with other software, as it makes use of a lot of features that may or may not be supported :(

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Re: Kalo's Arelith Build Calculator (CBC Edit)

Post by Arlen Blake » Mon Apr 13, 2020 10:38 pm

Kalopsia wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 7:33 pm
Arlen Blake wrote:
Mon Apr 13, 2020 6:27 pm
I can't seem to get this to load once I've DL'd it. Apache Open Office opens up, then it just goes into infinite load screen. I'm probably making some dumb mistake or something (not very good with computers) - Does anyone have advice?
This has only been tested with Microsoft Excel. I'm not sure if it works with other software, as it makes use of a lot of features that may or may not be supported :(
Oh shoot, for some reason I didn't even think to check if it was an Excel file. Darn. Thanks, that explains things!

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Post by NMan7496 » Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:03 pm

To start off, I just want to say, I love this calculator you made. Great work and definitely a major QoL improvement for me while building. I just had a question about a possible tweak:

Would it be possible to impliment the Paladin's +1 hard wisdom bonus every 7 levels?

I really can't stress enough how much I love this thing. Thank you very much for putting in the effort to make this.
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Post by Kalopsia » Mon Apr 20, 2020 7:36 pm

NMan7496 wrote:
Mon Apr 20, 2020 6:03 pm
To start off, I just want to say, I love this calculator you made. Great work and definitely a major QoL improvement for me while building. I just had a question about a possible tweak:

Would it be possible to impliment the Paladin's +1 hard wisdom bonus every 7 levels?

I really can't stress enough how much I love this thing. Thank you very much for putting in the effort to make this.
Thank you. Can be done, and has been done :)
OP updated with another new version!

Changes:
- Updated Shaman and Favored Soul with latest changes, amount of known spells is accurate now
- AB calculation for Monk builds is accurate now
- DC calculation for Shadow Daze and Terrifying Rage updated
- (Epic) Skill Focus in Stealth and Detect now apply the expected bonuses to both skills
- Paladins get hard WIS every 7 levels now, as they should!

Keep the feedback coming guys!

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Post by NMan7496 » Mon Apr 20, 2020 9:13 pm

That was fast, thanks!

Also, I'm going to give a +1 on getting this pinned.
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Post by Kalopsia » Sat May 02, 2020 1:44 pm

Another new version with with the latest class updates - link in the OP!

Changes:
- Added Hexblade to the class selection
- Included the latest monk changes
- Various feat-related fixes and improvements

Have fun! :)

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Post by Ork » Fri May 08, 2020 2:56 am

Pin please!

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Post by garrbear758 » Sun May 10, 2020 9:50 am

This is pinned now courtesy of Miaou.
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Post by Maladus » Fri May 15, 2020 6:12 pm

You've done amazing work on this! Thanks for taking the time to do this.

I was using this to try and plan out one of my existing character's epic levels and noticed that it appears the Assassin is still stock. At least in terms of the feats are considered. It doesn't have any of the new feats that are gained automatically, nor does it have the spells that have been added as abilities. I know it's a lot of work to keep up with this, and things can be overlooked which is why I am bringing this up.

Thanks again for the hard work!

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