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Bad Description Megathread

Post by garrbear758 » Tue Jun 30, 2020 8:11 am

Please post below if an in-game description is:

1. Wrong
2. Confusing
3. Lacks an easy to read formula if one is necessary

Please do not use this thread for balance discussions, issues on the wiki, or really anything else besides the above. Thank you!
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Re: Bad Description Megathread

Post by Baron Saturday » Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:36 pm

Cheers for making this, garrbear!

SKILLS (Pretty much every skill that has been changed except for Craft Mastery)
  • Animal Empathy
  • Appraise
  • Bluff
  • Lore
  • Parry
  • Perform
  • Persuade
  • Pickpocket
  • Ride
  • Search
  • Spot
  • Use Magic Device
CLASS FEATS
  • Dual Wielding (lacks info re: Defensive Dual Wielding AC bonus)
  • Blackguard Bull's Strength
  • Blackguard Create Undead
  • Blackguard Inflict Serious/Critical Wounds
  • Blackguard Summon Fiend
  • Heroic Shield
  • Rallying Cry
  • Inspire Courage
  • PDK Fear
  • Oath of Wrath
  • Final Stand
  • HiPS
  • Shadow Daze
  • Shadow Evade
  • Animal Companion (cooldown info)
  • Weapon Proficiency: Monk (Add nagitata, sai, and wakizashi to proficient weapons. Add naginata and sai to weapons that get monk UBAB)
  • Barbarian Rage
  • Cleric Death Domain (empowers Inflict Wound & Harm)
  • Cleric Healing Domain (empowers Heal & Circle of Healing)
GENERAL FEATS
  • Pretty much all of the Spell Focus feat
  • Weapon Finesse (add quarterstaff, katana, & any of the new weapons that are finessable)
  • Weapon Proficiency (add new weapons to respective feats)
  • Knockdown/Improved Knockdown
  • Disarm/Improved Disarm
  • Blinding Speed
  • Arcane Defense: Abjuration
  • All Epic Spell feats (misleading prereqs)
UNDOCUMENTED FEATS (Typically class features that just... aren't shown anywhere except on the wiki)
  • Barbarian Passive Damage Bonus
  • Barbarian Drunkenness Bonus
  • Fighter Passive AC/AB/Damage bonuses
  • Rogue Stealth Bonuses
  • Rogue Detection Bonuses
  • Rogue's Specialty Weapons
  • Rogue's Lightly Armoured
  • Rogue's Shady Deals
Last edited by Baron Saturday on Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:59 pm, edited 6 times in total.
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Re: Bad Description Megathread

Post by garrbear758 » Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:09 am

Awesome thanks! It's definitely not something that'll be fixed overnight, but I'll slowly get these fixed.
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Re: Bad Description Megathread

Post by Baron Saturday » Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:12 am

Absolutely! There's plenty more, but it's gonna take a minute to compile everything.
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Re: Bad Description Megathread

Post by msterswrdsmn » Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:17 am

Bardic Knowledge does not go over how only half of the lore bonus from this feat is applicable to scroll usage.

Exotic Weapons Proficeny (I think) grants a whole new feat of weapon proficeny: Katana only says "this feat lets you use the versatile effects of a katana!" even though its already part of the exotic weapons feat. Theres no explaination as to what these effects are, nor do I see why only a katana is given this treatment as a bastard sword is identical mechanically.

The Pray feat states "Pray to whichever god you worship for fancy aid!" without mentioning what sort of "aid" you might get, nor the piety/xp costs of said aid

Whether its intentional or not, it might be benificial to add that toggling -twohand will not allow a character to use a bastard sword, katana, or dwarven waraxe to gain parry AC

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Re: Bad Description Megathread

Post by Drogo Gyslain » Sun May 02, 2021 10:05 pm

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There is an 'inscription' at the small chest and altar for the Minotaurs at the Trappers camp zone that just reads this, and nothing else. It looks like it's supposed to be important, and then says it isn't.

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Re: Bad Description Megathread

Post by Tikin » Mon Jun 20, 2022 3:39 pm

Spell : Shadow Conjuration :

Description says it allows to conjure shadow version of: Darkness, Invisibility, Mage Armor, Magic Missile, or Summon Shadow

The actual spell list is: Mage Armor, Shadow Conjuration, Ghostly Visage, Grease, Mestil Acid Breath.

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Re: Bad Description Megathread

Post by Sandrow » Fri Aug 05, 2022 11:58 am

Poison needs Strychnine's seeds, but described as Strychnine.
Strychnine is a tree. But in herbalism, make plant Strychnine's product says you are making a Strychnine Bush

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Re: Bad Description Megathread

Post by ALTHERIC » Sun Aug 21, 2022 2:55 pm

The book "Arelith Common Questions Answered" could do with a rewrite. A lot of the questions and answers in the book relate to outdated or changed mechanics, which is very confusing to new players once they interact with those mechanics.

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Re: Bad Description Megathread

Post by Amateur Hour » Sat Nov 26, 2022 4:42 pm

The default Lady's Tear description describes it as bright purple. The sprite shows it as white.

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Re: Bad Description Megathread

Post by JustMonika » Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:03 am

Temporarily back to Arelith and currently Lilliana Snowfire.

If you have unfinished business with Ultrianan, let me know! Arabella has been rolled.


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Re: Bad Description Megathread

Post by Hazard » Mon Feb 13, 2023 6:55 am

https://i.imgur.com/PEPUsgj.png
https://i.imgur.com/ufam9MK.png

This reference to the Shadowfell and Feywild can be found in 'The House of Xvart' in Shadow Cordor.
Shadow Plane (Cordor) Lower Cordor (Interiors)

afaik the shadowfell hasn't been created yet, and no one knows about the feywild (or it doesn't exist).


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Re: Bad Description Megathread

Post by Kalopsia » Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:25 am

Reviving this thread with a particular focus on class, spell and feat descriptions. Please list their names and the inaccuracies you spotted and we'll get them fixed over time. Thank you!


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Re: Bad Description Megathread

Post by Naghast » Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:04 am

Iron horn
In-game description states it contests strength and dexterity. Wiki states it is only strength.
In-game, functionally, it contests only strength.

Daltim's fiery tentacles
In-game description states it deals 1d10 + 5 per caster level, maximum +15 fire damage.
Wiki description states it deals 1 per caster level, maximum 15.
NONE of these two descriptions are true. It seems to deal 1d10 + 5 fire damage with no damage scaling whatsoever. So i believe there's an error here as well.

In case of fiery tentacles, it'd be nice to know the actual damage of them.


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Re: Bad Description Megathread

Post by Kalopsia » Fri Mar 10, 2023 12:47 am

Naghast wrote:
Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:04 am

Iron horn
In-game description states it contests strength and dexterity. Wiki states it is only strength.
In-game, functionally, it contests only strength.

Daltim's fiery tentacles
In-game description states it deals 1d10 + 5 per caster level, maximum +15 fire damage.
Wiki description states it deals 1 per caster level, maximum 15.
NONE of these two descriptions are true. It seems to deal 1d10 + 5 fire damage with no damage scaling whatsoever. So i believe there's an error here as well.

In case of fiery tentacles, it'd be nice to know the actual damage of them.

Fixed those two, thanks!


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Re: Bad Description Megathread

Post by Naghast » Sat Mar 25, 2023 6:51 am

...Seems like tentacle spell descriptions (except for kyristans) still contain an error.

Both evards and daltims state that small creatures are immune to them, which is no longer the case.


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Re: Bad Description Megathread

Post by Paint » Sat Mar 25, 2023 6:53 am

Ice Dagger states that it's 15d4 ingame, but this appears to not be the case; The wiki states 20d4, and a change posted to discord on 6/16/2022 by Kenji states that it was changed to 20d4.

It's a pretty good spell and I think a lot of people are sleeping on it right now because they think it's doing a fourth less than it actually is.


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Re: Bad Description Megathread

Post by CrashGoblin » Sat Apr 08, 2023 12:25 am

Mass Hold Monster's description is just "Hold Monster, Mass".

Greater Sanctuary doesn't specify it unsummons summoned creatures (this caught me off guard).


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Re: Bad Description Megathread

Post by Khorvale » Thu Apr 13, 2023 11:27 pm

The decription of a Pickaxe (as opposed to a mining pickaxe) says it's the ideal tool for mining gems and ores, but I get a lot less of both when using it instead of the Mining Pickaxe or Gem Hammer (or whatever it's called). Does not seem ideal.


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Re: Bad Description Megathread

Post by Amateur Hour » Thu Apr 27, 2023 2:35 pm

Moonphase Scepter current description:

Wrought of silver and gleaming sapphire, these maces have a long straight shaft with four sharp flanges, each depicting a different phase of the moon.

Created by Sacred Virgins dedicated to the Moonmaiden Selûne by ritualistic application of their own tears shed upon news of grievous doings in the world and chanted over while singing prayers to the goddess that invoke her against darkness and despair.

Some of these weapons have been found in the hands of champions of allied faiths such as the Church of Mystra and it should come to no surprise that the followers of Shar and Malar keep them as trophies or to use in their sick games against the Lady of the Moon and Star.

"Created by" followed by a description of the method implies these are each created by a Sacred Virgin dedicated to Selune, but there is no lock on who the smith can be (as far as I'm aware).

I'd recommend changing the second paragraph to something like the following (which is also a complete sentence):

Sacred Virgins dedicated to the Moonmaiden Selûne originally created these with ritualistic application of their own tears shed upon news of grievous doings in the world and chanted over while singing prayers to the goddess that invoke her against darkness and despair.

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Re: Bad Description Megathread

Post by Inordinate » Tue Jun 13, 2023 4:10 pm

Please, please, PLEASE update the skill description for Craft Mastery so that it removes this bit about the K&I domains. As a wiki editor trying to kill the persistent "you need a K&I god to godsave crafts" thing that's lingered for years this is making it difficult
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If need there comes to shelter my ship on the flood;
The wind I calm upon the waves, and the sea I put to sleep

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