Mithral vs. Mithril

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Maxer Copho
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Mithral vs. Mithril

Post by Maxer Copho » Mon Mar 20, 2023 8:09 am

With the spelling change from Mithril to Mithral, one item that did not appear to change was the smithing menu itself, which still lists Ingot (Mithril) in the selections option under Materials.

What it outputs is still an Ingot (Mithral) as far as I can tell, so it's not really a bug, just a copyediting thing.

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Re: Mithral vs. Mithril

Post by backlands » Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:04 pm

This is currently on the todo list for staff. It just requires some validation before we go and make the change. Thanks for the reminder ti helps keep us on track! :D


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Re: Mithral vs. Mithril

Post by MissEvelyn » Sat Apr 01, 2023 9:12 pm

Any chance Arjale could be renamed too? This one has been a pet peeve of mine ever since the early days. Arjale, in the Forgotten Realms, is an ore found only in the Nine Hells, specifically on Phlegethos (but also rarely found on other layers), and somehow it's on the Material Plane in Arelith without any explanation.

Dragon Magazine #91, page 26 wrote:

Phlegethos

This active, fiery plane is rich in mineral and gemstone wealth due to its volcanic activity: all major metals are found here — including the two metals unique to the hells, arjale and tantulhor.

Dragon Magazine #91, page 27 wrote:

Like Phlegethos, Malbolge is a source of the metals arjale and tantulhor (see the end of this section); Moloch's whip, said to be fashioned of an "unknown, pliable metal" (see Monster Manual II), is made of an alloy of arjale. These metals are much rarer in Malbolge than in Phlegethos.

Dragon Magazine #91, page 29 wrote:

Unique metals and talismans

The two metals unique to the hells are found in Phlegethos, Malbolge, Maladomini, and Nessus.

One of them is arjale. It is black in color, light in weight, easily worked to a smooth surface, and can be brought to razor-sharpness. If alloyed with iron, it becomes a light green-grey in color, and quite pliable (a metal sometimes called "dajavva").

Methods of forging and working these metals are unknown outside the hells — as, by and large, are the metals themselves. Due to their rarity and properties, such metals will bring very high prices if shrewdly sold on the Prime Material Plane.

Arjale also turning into Baatorian Green Steel (the canonically accurate version of Greensteel) is also plain wrong, as that is an entirely different metal. With no relation to Arjale, it too is found in the Nine Hells. At least we got the keen and light properties of Baatorian Green Steel right, but it is wrong that you can find it in the fields, forests, and mines of Arelith, when it's supposed to be a mineral that naturally forms deep in the mines of the Nine Hells of Baator.

The naming scheme, in general, feels as though it was written by someone who knew of the names but did not bother to research the concept behind the lore, and I for one would love to see a complete naming do over (without necessarily needing to rebalance things), and that also be vetted by those devs knowledgeable in the canonical lore.


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