So when are Non-warlocks, Non Palemasters getting conjuration protection back?

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Kalthariam
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So when are Non-warlocks, Non Palemasters getting conjuration protection back?

Post by Kalthariam » Sat May 27, 2023 1:08 am

As the title.

When are people whom aren't Palemasters or Warlocks going to get the ability to protect their conjurations from just being erased by the very easily accessible WOF scrolls / Tomes? That basically anyone can get? Because investing in lore is not a drawback, and literally just is as mandatory in most builds these days as Discpline and Spellcraft is? Or the UMD variation for people that can get those?

Like.. why is a simple skill point investment (IN which everyone now has excessive skill points to spend due to everyone getting bonus skill points) so easily allowed to invalidate entire builds and epic feat investments with a single action?

I seriously do not understand all of these changes to just force Conjuration focused spellcasters into worse and worse positions with every single update that goes by involving them.

Just get rid of sequencers, roll back the stat changes to conjurations to pre-sequencer levels, and let people buff their summons again. This entire experiment has been nothing but a headache, and a massive waste of time and resources for nothing but making the play time experience for players that play Conjurers worse.

If that's not on the table, then non-warlocks and non-palemasters need a way to protect their summons from just random WOF spells. It's absolutely ridiculous that a minimal investment in lore (Which you should be doing anyways) completely invalidates entire builds.


PowerWord Rage
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Re: So when are Non-warlocks, Non Palemasters getting conjuration protection back?

Post by PowerWord Rage » Sat May 27, 2023 1:28 am

A literal repeat of viewtopic.php?f=37&t=41755
If you believe that...anything has changed, that is.


Kalthariam
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Re: So when are Non-warlocks, Non Palemasters getting conjuration protection back?

Post by Kalthariam » Sat May 27, 2023 1:38 am

That thread was about me thinking WOF was too accessible (it is.)

I will not deny that it plays a major role in the fact Conjurers need summon protections. However, I want to know when we will be getting summon protections back.

Minor skill point investments shouldn't invalidate epic feats. imho.

Conjuration focused characters that aren't warlocks or palemasters should have options for protecting their investments, especially since unlike necromancers, Conjuration specialists do not get to just resummon their conjurations.


DM Poppy
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Re: So when are Non-warlocks, Non Palemasters getting conjuration protection back?

Post by DM Poppy » Sat May 27, 2023 2:13 pm

As this thread is identical to the thread linked above I'd encourage people to use that one after considering what has already been input

The different title doesn't change the view that WoF is problematic to conjuring.

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