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Subrace Update Questions!
Figured I'd need one of these for whatever fancy I need to cover.
Is the Dodge that half-elves receive 'hard'?
Meaning, does it count for feat and class prerequisites?
What type of AC do wild elves receive?
Is the Dodge that half-elves receive 'hard'?
Meaning, does it count for feat and class prerequisites?
What type of AC do wild elves receive?
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Will the Svirfneblin and wild elf AC stack with all other types of AC?
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Yes.Nitro wrote:Will the Svirfneblin and wild elf AC stack with all other types of AC?
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it's awesome to get a plane touched to lvl 30 with ecl 2 and it get turned to ecl 1 now.
yay... how useful is that.. can't even get a stat gift on old toons.. urgh. sorry.. just frustrated...
i think the concept is good tho. hopefully should bring more Assimars to the table.. been to many evil reward races of late.
yay... how useful is that.. can't even get a stat gift on old toons.. urgh. sorry.. just frustrated...
i think the concept is good tho. hopefully should bring more Assimars to the table.. been to many evil reward races of late.
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Re: Update Questions!
Remind me how tiefs/aasimars work.
Do they use their base race stats?
Which means, if I go elf-aasimar, I can then pick a dex bloodline, and then a dex gift for a starter +6 dex?
Wait - there's no cost for taking a bloodline? After all that bonus, do they remain at ECL +1?
Do they use their base race stats?
Which means, if I go elf-aasimar, I can then pick a dex bloodline, and then a dex gift for a starter +6 dex?
Wait - there's no cost for taking a bloodline? After all that bonus, do they remain at ECL +1?
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yeah iceborn. your right
elf (+2 dex) + bloodline (+2 dex) + gift of grace (+2 dex) = 6 dex.
hence i got screwed over royally.
that's how i understand it...
elf (+2 dex) + bloodline (+2 dex) + gift of grace (+2 dex) = 6 dex.
hence i got screwed over royally.
that's how i understand it...
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Yes, they can take a blood line, and one major and minor.Iceborn wrote:Remind me how tiefs/aasimars work.
Do they use their base race stats?
Which means, if I go elf-aasimar, I can then pick a dex bloodline, and then a dex gift for a starter +6 dex?
Wait - there's no cost for taking a bloodline? After all that bonus, do they remain at ECL +1?
Do not hold your breath though...! They're bound to get something similar to the imp/dismissal interaction.
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So they still get their base-race bonus? Elf-tief would get a base +2 dex? (before bloodline and gift)
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I can make this work if its in high demand. I mean I am not being lazy its just the subrace system is huge now on Arelith so sometimes adding support for old characters gets tedious and you are not sure what might break.Seekeepeek wrote:it's awesome to get a plane touched to lvl 30 with ecl 2 and it get turned to ecl 1 now.
yay... how useful is that.. can't even get a stat gift on old toons.. urgh. sorry.. just frustrated...
i think the concept is good tho. hopefully should bring more Assimars to the table.. been to many evil reward races of late.
What I could do is a DM tool to allow them to give your a Bloodline option; it would neutralize your current Aasimar ability stats though. I think DMs have the power to add gifts as well so if you really wanted to pick that as well, definitely doable.
Personally I think just adding a NPC in the character editor area allowing your to pick a Bloodline there is best.
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Correct. Aasimar and Tiefling get whatever stats their base race had, a bloodline, and gift (1 major & minor)Iceborn wrote:So they still get their base-race bonus? Elf-tief would get a base +2 dex? (before bloodline and gift)
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Gotcha.
I would suggest sticking a +1 ECL to the bloodline, though.
I would suggest sticking a +1 ECL to the bloodline, though.
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that's be great if i could get a +2 str gift on my lvl 30 plane touched. would really want that.ActionReplay wrote:I can make this work if its in high demand. I mean I am not being lazy its just the subrace system is huge now on Arelith so sometimes adding support for old characters gets tedious and you are not sure what might break.Seekeepeek wrote:it's awesome to get a plane touched to lvl 30 with ecl 2 and it get turned to ecl 1 now.
yay... how useful is that.. can't even get a stat gift on old toons.. urgh. sorry.. just frustrated...
i think the concept is good tho. hopefully should bring more Assimars to the table.. been to many evil reward races of late.
What I could do is a DM tool to allow them to give your a Bloodline option; it would neutralize your current Aasimar ability stats though. I think DMs have the power to add gifts as well so if you really wanted to pick that as well, definitely doable.
Personally I think just adding a NPC in the character editor area allowing your to pick a Bloodline there is best.
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Re: Update Questions!
We went back and forth on that one. Aasimar and Tiefling still requires a Greater Reward though and I think the idea here is to make them slightly stronger.Iceborn wrote:Gotcha.
I would suggest sticking a +1 ECL to the bloodline, though.
Will have to wait on a Admin decision on this one if current Aasimars and Tieflings are to be allowed to pick a Bloodline (And potential gifts), at least if they had picked the Subrace with a Greater Reward.
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yeah.. don't think i'll get an other greater reward anytime soon. so kinda felt frustrated about this. :/
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Orog: Now get 5% Physical Immunity. (Applied to existing Orogs)gilescorey wrote:pls buff orogs
they just got one?
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Yay 1 damage reduced..
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Never reply to me or my wife's son ever again.Seekeepeek wrote:they just got one?
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The planetouched alreayd are +1 ECL from the bloodline.Iceborn wrote:Gotcha.
I would suggest sticking a +1 ECL to the bloodline, though.
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Will ppl be given relevels over the extra feats?
I can think of a couple cases it could help.
I can think of a couple cases it could help.
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When you ask DM i am sure they remove needed number of levels...I doubt you could ever get them back tho.
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Yeah, this is a sick update and I'm very happy gift races are no longer crappier than base ones! But I'm also in the boat of "should I go back to level 6 since I now wasted a feat?" Dangit.
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Would be interesting to get a position on this. Since it's not every character that might need it maybe make it a case basis?
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That definitely shouldn't be the case, since there's no reason for it and it makes no sense.Cortex wrote: Do not hold your breath though...! They're bound to get something similar to the imp/dismissal interaction.