Paladin+Loremaster Trick of Warding

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Zan
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Paladin+Loremaster Trick of Warding

Post by Zan »

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10 Paladin / 10 PDK / 2 Loremaster

Steps to reproduce:
Level a Paladin and take SF: Abjuration & GSF: Abjuration
Take levels in Loremaster and take Secret Knowledge of Warding

Expected result:
Subtracts Piety for casting the Ward, as per other Divine casters

Actual Result:
No ward appears
Combat log alert 'You do not have enough components to cast this spell"

Secondary test:
Have a spell component pouch with components on same character
Ward successful


Note:
Bug irreproduceable on PGCC, ward functions with no piety loss and no components required
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Re: Paladin+Loremaster Trick of Warding

Post by Mattamue »

Came up in a similar bug report viewtopic.php?f=12&t=29756
Zaphiel wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:43 am Is your divine casting class level 17 or higher (18 for shaman and favored soul)? Those epic spells check for being epic divine caster (divine caster level 17/18). If your divine casting class level lower than those numbers, then it is normal for you to be not counted as divine caster.
Zaphiel wrote: Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:24 pm It is not special to loremaster. Those epic spells requires to be epic divine caster for use piety. Feel free to give feedback about it since it is not something I have added nor I have idea why it is implemented in this way.

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Zan
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Re: Paladin+Loremaster Trick of Warding

Post by Zan »

Apologies if I'm missing something here,but that doesn't make sense and contradicts how the divine classes currently function, since non-epic spells also cost piety (level 6 spells and above cost piety).

Hybrid divine classes (ranger, paladin) don't get level 6 spells, however shouldn't they still be falling into the same bucket as to the source of their powers? Study and dedication of the rituals and blessings from their diety rather than suddenly being arcane?
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Re: Paladin+Loremaster Trick of Warding

Post by Xerah »

It's just the way it's coded and not a bug. Will it get changed? Who knows, but unlikely to any time soon.
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