Suddenly can't use a number of scrolls!

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Suddenly can't use a number of scrolls!

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I could normally employ all the second level spell scrolls, seemingly because of my class as cleric (not lore,) and now I can only use half of them as of an update a few minutes ago. I went from being able to use all zoo spell scrolls to...not being able to use Fox's Cunning, Owl's Wisdom, and Cat's Grace. Meanwhile, I can still use some ninth level spell scrolls and other high level ones and the rest of the zoo spells (can't confirm Eagle's Splendor.)

Edit: Some very helpful info from the thread.
chris a gogo wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:45 pm Seems like Lore is no longer allowing usage of scrolls i can use all the arcane ones on my wizard but the others are non usable now.

Hope the info helps abit.
DM Rex wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:25 pm Doesn't seem like wands are working with UMD either. Native wands should be okay.
ReverentBlade wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:01 am This issue is weird. Some wands work, some don't. Bull's Strength and Cat's Grace are fine, Endurance is broken. Improved Invis is broken. I have three negative energy protection wands from the same crafter. Two of them are broken, but my almost used up wand I can still use.

I think it might be related to the number of charges a wand has, because the unusable wands seem to have a relatively higher number of charges. I have 15 UMD exactly.

Wand of shadow conjuration with 21 charges, usuable. Wand of shadow conjuration with 49, broken.
ReverentBlade wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:41 am Raising my UMD from 15 to 29 with splendor and bard song just made all my wands work again. Strongly suspect that the game is now calculating value of the wands by their charges and inflating the UMD requirements.
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I've also been experiencing issues using scrolls that I should be able to use on several characters.

My cleric in some cases cannot use scrolls even from his own class AND with the requisite lore, and my fighter cannot use any scrolls with the requisite lore either.

This has been an issue for several weeks now. (Edit : I now remember what issue that was, and it's not this. )

But the current issue still remains of lore not granting scroll access like it should.
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For several weeks? Are you sure it's related? This only started for me and others after the last reset.
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make sure your scrolls are scribed by a divine caster and not an arcane caster, they will show the differences in the descrip
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Doesn't seem like wands are working with UMD either. Native wands should be okay.
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I'm referring to scrolls dropped from enemies. And the Cleric class is listed in the description and still not allowing me to use it, in the case of my cleric. (Edit : I now remember what the issue was and it's not the Lore/UMD bug this thread is on about)
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Seems like Lore is no longer allowing usage of scrolls i can use all the arcane ones on my wizard but the others are non usable now.

Hope the info helps abit.
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DM Rex wrote: Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:25 pm Doesn't seem like wands are working with UMD either. Native wands should be okay.
Can confirm, can't use any wands normally used with UMD!
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This issue is weird. Some wands work, some don't. Bull's Strength and Cat's Grace are fine, Endurance is broken. Improved Invis is broken. I have three negative energy protection wands from the same crafter. Two of them are broken, but my almost used up wand I can still use.

I think it might be related to the number of charges a wand has, because the unusable wands seem to have a relatively higher number of charges. I have 15 UMD exactly.

Wand of shadow conjuration with 21 charges, usuable. Wand of shadow conjuration with 49, broken.
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Can not add much to the Wand discussion, other than all my wands, as crafted by myself, are still usable.

Scrolls on the other hand, I am now unable to use any that I was previously able to use. The only scrolls I have that I can use are the ones with no class restrictions attached.
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I can confirm, I purchased scrolls on my character, and have sufficient lore, but now I cannot use any of them.
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Raising my UMD from 15 to 29 with splendor and bard song just made all my wands work again. Strongly suspect that the game is now calculating value of the wands by their charges and inflating the UMD requirements.
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ReverentBlade wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:41 am Raising my UMD from 15 to 29 with splendor and bard song just made all my wands work again. Strongly suspect that the game is now calculating value of the wands by their charges and inflating the UMD requirements.
Interesting theory, maybe worth putting in its own bug report?
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hello, my PC has 0 access to magic or UMD but has lore, and I've been unable to cast any type of scroll save for the ones accessible to all (restoration etc)

This bug affects lore as in: Currently no scrolls can be cast using lore
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OleBlighty wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 2:15 am
ReverentBlade wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:41 am Raising my UMD from 15 to 29 with splendor and bard song just made all my wands work again. Strongly suspect that the game is now calculating value of the wands by their charges and inflating the UMD requirements.
Interesting theory, maybe worth putting in its own bug report?
I'd say good enough for me to quote into the main post. Among other things.
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reverse loremageddon?
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The most recent reset appears to have fixed this.
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