Loremaster and EKD Defensive Stance AB not stacking with each other or Aid

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Aeribelle
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Loremaster and EKD Defensive Stance AB not stacking with each other or Aid

Post by Aeribelle »

Description of Bug Experienced:
Testing my build on the PGCC, and am finding there are some odd interactions in the calculation of AB with a few skills. It would seem the Loremaster "Weapon Trick" +1 AB, Earthkin Defenders +1 (+2 with Iron Stance) Defensive Stance do not seem to stack with each other. Testing it, without Loremaster in the Build, Earthkin Defender gets the proper +1 and +2 respectively. With Loremaster and taking the Weapon Trick, When I enter Defensive Stance I am not gaining any AB in Defensive Stance, and only an additional +1 (so Iron Stances +2 is overriding Loremasters +1 AB).

Similiarly, these BOTH seem to have the same result in conjunction with the Aid spell. No Loremaster Weapon trick or EKD Stance, Aid applys the +1 Properly. With either Loremaster and or EKD Stance, the +1 AB doesn't stack, or is overridden with the Iron Stance +2....

Not sure if this is on purpose, but seems to nullify the use of Loremasters +1 AB trick, as nearly everyone will have access to aid. Also takes a hit against EKD's Stance bonus, both Prestige classes losing some value by not stacking with aid.

Steps to reproduce the Bug:
Take Loremaster and Earthkin Defender, as well as use an Aid wand in conjunction with each other.


Expected Result:
Proper AB stacking.

Actual Result:
No AB stacking.

Screenshot(s)
I will gather some screenshots to show as well after a little while, but pretty self explanatory.

Additional Information/Notes
And to knock out some quick questions.

1) No, im not at my +20 Cap.
BAB 22, +12 DEX, +1 Size, +4 Enhancement, +1 Foci = 40 AB
+1 Aid, +1 Loremaster, and +1 EKD Defensive Stance is only bringing it to 41, rather then 43
+1 Aid, +1 Loremaster, and +2 EKD IRON Stance is only bringing it to 42, rather then 44

2) I've tested the attack rolls vs. displayed sheet, and they are not stacking. Displayed Sheet is short 1 (because the size bonus of a halfling does not seem to display).
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TooManyPotatoes
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Re: Loremaster and EKD Defensive Stance AB not stacking with each other or Aid

Post by TooManyPotatoes »

Screenshots of the combat logs would be really important. The character sheet is almost always wrong.

Doing my own testing, my small stature, loremaster, swash with aid and twohanding shows 5 less ab on the sheet than shows in the combat logs. The combat log gives the correct ab. I havent a dwarven defender to test.
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