summer weapon update: two bladed weapons not treated as polearms

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summer weapon update: two bladed weapons not treated as polearms

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According to the update, two bladed swords/double axes/dire maces should be treated as polearms in addition to two-handed. I attempted to equip them with a character that has weapon focus: polearm and they did not get the +2 ab from the feat.

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Re: summer weapon update: two bladed weapons not treated as polearms

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Did you try this on PGCC or live server?

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Re: summer weapon update: two bladed weapons not treated as polearms

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Solely Weapon Focus: Polearm? That yields only 1 AB. Does that show?
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Re: summer weapon update: two bladed weapons not treated as polearms

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I tried it on live server. PGCC didn't seem to to have the summer weapons update in there

I have a character on surface who has both weapon focus 1h concussion and wf polearm. I had a higher ab with a bronze heavy flail (which counts as a 1h concussion now according to the update) than with a steel two bladed sword(should be counting as polearm). You'd think if the wf polearm was working the steel weapon would have a higher ab than the bronze, but no.

Now, to be fair, this steel two bladed sword was something I owned prior to this update and the heavy flail, I bought afterwards. If that's the case then I guess older weapons aren't grandfathered in.

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Can confirm it is at least a PGCC issue. I have 1h Concussion with both weapon foci. I get +3 on a warhammer, but nothing on a maul. Used bronze for both to test.
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Re: summer weapon update: two bladed weapons not treated as polearms

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Rowlind Salem wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:15 am I tried it on live server. PGCC didn't seem to to have the summer weapons update in there

I have a character on surface who has both weapon focus 1h concussion and wf polearm. I had a higher ab with a bronze heavy flail (which counts as a 1h concussion now according to the update) than with a steel two bladed sword(should be counting as polearm). You'd think if the wf polearm was working the steel weapon would have a higher ab than the bronze, but no.

Now, to be fair, this steel two bladed sword was something I owned prior to this update and the heavy flail, I bought afterwards. If that's the case then I guess older weapons aren't grandfathered in.
Bronze heavy flail is a 2H weapon, which nets you extra +2 AB

Steel Two-Bladed Sword is a dual-wield double weapon, which nets you -2 AB

Their difference should be 4 AB - 1 (from steel). You should get 3 more AB with bronze heavy flail than double sword if you have Ambidex and Two-Weapon fighting, or Dual-wield feat from ranger.

If you only have polearm weapon focus and not 2H weapon focus, then you should get 2 more AB with bronze heavy flail.

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Re: summer weapon update: two bladed weapons not treated as polearms

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Kenji wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:43 am
Rowlind Salem wrote: Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:15 am I tried it on live server. PGCC didn't seem to to have the summer weapons update in there

I have a character on surface who has both weapon focus 1h concussion and wf polearm. I had a higher ab with a bronze heavy flail (which counts as a 1h concussion now according to the update) than with a steel two bladed sword(should be counting as polearm). You'd think if the wf polearm was working the steel weapon would have a higher ab than the bronze, but no.

Now, to be fair, this steel two bladed sword was something I owned prior to this update and the heavy flail, I bought afterwards. If that's the case then I guess older weapons aren't grandfathered in.
Bronze heavy flail is a 2H weapon, which nets you extra +2 AB

Steel Two-Bladed Sword is a dual-wield double weapon, which nets you -2 AB

Their difference should be 4 AB - 1 (from steel). You should get 3 more AB with bronze heavy flail than double sword if you have Ambidex and Two-Weapon fighting, or Dual-wield feat from ranger.

If you only have polearm weapon focus and not 2H weapon focus, then you should get 2 more AB with bronze heavy flail.
Awesome, thanks for the breakdown. User error it is

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