Dr. B wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:22 pmI don't think there's anything wrong with going to a dungeon. What I wanted to emphasize here is that no one is talking or emoting in this hypothetical situation. It's meant as a counterexample to show that including players in your play sessions isn't all there is to good roleplay.
I get where you are coming from, because it's true. If you go out with a bunch of long-time players, chances are they have all done the dungeon you are in a gazzillion times and are just rushing to show off their build mob to mob. What I was referring to in regard to dungeons is taking out that random player. If they are new to NWN, it gives you a chance to show them what roleplay looks like on arelith in a one-on-one situation that allows them to interact instead of just watching the better players do their thing, and if they are just new to arelith well...they probably come from a place where people don't turn off the roleplay button as soon as the dungeon starts.
The GrumpyCat wrote: ↑Fri Jul 14, 2023 5:25 pmRPB is by no means entirely, or even mostly - defined by writing ability.
That said, writing ability does help.
We don't ask that people need perfect grammer/spelling to reach 50, but those that have a high rpr do tend to be good, if not excellent, writers.
Again this doesn't neccesarly mean that every word that comes out of them is a massive emote. Far from it. But it means they are often (again note often, not always) capable of interesting emotes, subtlties and such when it's needed. And it also means that they are always basically comprehendable.The way I see it... and please note that this isn't just for 'RPB' but really just general interaction - writing ability is not the be all and end all, but it's like wearing a suit for an interview. Someone who wears a suit, scrubs up, sits properly for a job interview isn't neccesarly any better for a job then the guy who comes in wearing stained tracksuit bottoms, a dirty t-shirt and an unshaven chin. In fact the latter person may be far better, but they're not going to give a good first impression.
Ultimatly a good chunk of roleplay is about communicating the decisions your character makes, as well as those decisions. The better you do that, the better and more compelling you will appear.
I say this will full understanding that you are someone who does make these sorts of judgement calls, and therefore by default are whats right for arelith, but I think you are missing the potential harm you are causing the server with this sort of attitude. By attaching benefits to a skill that takes time to develop and people are not inherently born with, you are creating an environment where people who do have that skill begin to think they are superior to those who don't. In a video game. That creates a high school like environment among the playerbase, where the better writers play the role of the jocks or whatever, and everyone else is the "losers".
Now, there are going to be some great writers that are more generous than others with newer players (red ropes comes to mind but there are plenty of others like that), but there are also those that are going to become condescending twits toward anyone that doesn't fit the "excellent roleplayer" mold. That in itself is going to breed resentment from everyone else, and since most people who play here are pretty smart even if they can't write like a superstar eventually you start to see groups forming that want to exact revenge upon said condescending twits. Sound familiar?
Now I realize that this is a little deep for a conversation that's supposed to be about chatgpt, but I'm about to head off for my yearly vanishing act and at this point I'm not certain I will be returning again. So, I wanted to let as much wisdom fly as I can before I go, since despite its faults I truly do love this place.
And yeah, I know it's not going to accomplish anything, but it makes me feel like I did my part.