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Against The Storm
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New player commoner unable to craft

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Is there some way to get around needing to wait 96 hours before I can make things? Or should I not play this class?

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Re: New player commoner unable to craft

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Against The Storm wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:01 am

Is there some way to get around needing to wait 96 hours before I can make things? Or should I not play this class?

That time goes by pretty fast... As a commoner class though I can see how hard it could be...

I suggest perhaps if you like you could make an alt character you can play around with as your timer runs.

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I’d say play something else, not just because of the timer but because commoner isn’t a good new player experience at all, it’s mostly a support class. Most who play one either know the ins and outs of the game so well they know how to make the most of the class, or it’s a side character cranking out crafts for a faction or trade guild. It’s a terrible class if you want to take part in any other aspect of the game and I think you’ll get frustrated fast by the slow leveling. Hold on to the character until you have 20+ RPR and know the server.

If you want to be a master crafter who can also advance in levels the normal way and be useful in adventuring groups and even solo I’d recommend playing a cleric with two crafting domains and the starting gift of craftsmanship, you’ll have tons of crafting points and be able to summon and cast useful spells so you can also do writs and be an asset in parties and probably most important for any crafter, be able to go out and gather materials on your own when needed.

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Re: New player commoner unable to craft

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I did want to play a commoner though, so telling me to not do the thing is kind of... not helpful I guess.

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Re: New player commoner unable to craft

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They really are giving you the best advice they can. A commoner will not be able to experience what Arelith really has to offer to a new player. We all just want you to have fun with us.
So, to answer your question: no. there isn't a way around it.

if you're sold on playing half of a character, get used to the hard RP for hours. Commoner gives you nothing really useful or good (and it's not supposed to. it's an NPC class. neverwinter nights, arelith, and dungeons and dragons in general are traditionally about "heroes"). It only really "benefits" from the increased crafting points. Pretty much anything you wanted to do as a commoner, you could do as a normal player class.

but do as you wish. don't let convenience, intent, or spirit change your mind if you don't want it to. we're all here to play and have fun our way

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Re: New player commoner unable to craft

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Hello and welcome to the server! First off, as others have stated, there's not a way to circumvent the new player timer, sorry. You will just need to wait.

Now, second, to counter some of the negativity here, I play a commoner right now. They are the only character I play regularly. I am not a crafting alt or faction craftbot. I played several epic-level characters before making my commoner.

My commoner is the best RP experience I've had on Arelith. If the idea of playing a non-combat capable crafter appeals to you, don't be discouraged. This is a RP server at the end of the day. Not everyone needs to be an adventurer capable of slaying scores of undead on their own. Dealing with the perils of Arelith as a character who cannot readily handle them on their own makes for a great RP generator and has led to some of my most memorable times on this server, and great character arcs.

It's not for everyone, but if you picked up this server and came to the conclusion of "yeah, I'm gonna play the class that levels passively and can't fight well" then I assume you know what you're looking for.

I hope you enjoy the server!

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Re: New player commoner unable to craft

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The concern has been raised among staff. I cannot promise that anything will happen, or if it does that it will happen soon, and I am sorry that some anti-exploit tools have, unfortunately caused this difficulty for you. I hope a solution can be made that works, as the above sentiment:

Biggrouse wrote: Wed Oct 02, 2024 12:35 pm

It's not for everyone, but if you picked up this server and came to the conclusion of "yeah, I'm gonna play the class that levels passively and can't fight well" then I assume you know what you're looking for.

Well, I honestly agree with it. I don't think the right way to go about seeing someone who wants to rp and craft as their first experience, is to tell them that they are wrong about it.

But, failing a solution, a bit can also be done as a commoner to prepare for when you can craft, such as gathering materials, assisting adventuring parties as a heal-kit dispenser or looter, learning the economy by sourcing things for others.

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Re: New player commoner unable to craft

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Against The Storm wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 11:31 pm

I did want to play a commoner though, so telling me to not do the thing is kind of... not helpful I guess.

You can absolutly play one! Its just going to be a bit harder since you have the new player timer.

As Eira says....

Well, I honestly agree with it. I don't think the right way to go about seeing someone who wants to rp and craft as their first experience, is to tell them that they are wrong about it.

But, failing a solution, a bit can also be done as a commoner to prepare for when you can craft, such as gathering materials, assisting adventuring parties as a heal-kit dispenser or looter, learning the economy by sourcing things for others.

Really this is the best advice.. You can learn alot about the world right now, the different cities and towns... As a crafter who cant yet craft as suggested you could begin to gather the stockpile of supplies you will want. Mayhaps another player will interact with yours, send you on a sort of gathering mission, or knowledge finding mission..... I mean more I think about it as I write this, theres SO MUCH that really could be done...

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Re: New player commoner unable to craft

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I think commoner should probably have a 20 RPR requirement so new players don't take it because it's really not for them at all.

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Re: New player commoner unable to craft

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I am glad that people seem to know how to play my experience for me better than I do. I guess they can play it for me as well? Honestly if the simple response from so many people is 'You're wrong to play this' as if I was somehow entirely unaware of my own decisions is kind of... arrogant? Anyway don't bother, I won't be playing here.

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Re: New player commoner unable to craft

Post by Hoodoo »

Shouldn't be 96 hours, if it is that's a bug. It was supposed to be 40 hours, odd. Regardless, I've decreased this to 20 hours.

Also can you clarify on not being able to create things? How are you making these things? New players should be able to craft.

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Re: New player commoner unable to craft

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Against The Storm wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 7:01 am

Is there some way to get around needing to wait 96 hours before I can make things? Or should I not play this class?

Against The Storm wrote: Thu Oct 03, 2024 1:43 am

I am glad that people seem to know how to play my experience for me better than I do. I guess they can play it for me as well? Honestly if the simple response from so many people is 'You're wrong to play this' as if I was somehow entirely unaware of my own decisions is kind of... arrogant? Anyway don't bother, I won't be playing here.

You literally have in your post... "Or should I not play this class"

People are trying to help you here, even trying to explain how you can play the class even while still on cooldown and this is what you are getting from that?

An Admin even went in and cut said wait timer in half.

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