RP Ranking

[Ruzuke]

Lets get rid of it. It provides extra XP and promotes a very much of a clique of my RP is better than yours.

How is it a clique like behavior? If you know the right people and they like your RP, they can promote your RP higher.

Is it effective? No, in the past DMs took notice of my Kobold and promoted my RP score a few times. Does it make my RP better than others? No, I just made a character did some research on the race and tried to follow the books. I believe the majority of the players do this.

I have seen those with high ratings sitting on their PC with their circle of friends doing little to be inclusive and low scored people great tons of RP for others remaining at a low rating.

The current system is about networking and who you know. Great RP and writing for the most part is subjective.

[ltlukoziuz]

Last thread's been barely two months ago - viewtopic.php?f=37&t=46248

[Security_Blanket]

Is the RPR really that important? If this has affected me, ever, I'm unaware of it.

[Ruzuke]

I do not think it is that important other than faster leveling, free perks (can make a dragon disciple) and with the other feedback it made me think hey I've seen a lot of high RPR players breaking theme and setting. Should they keep getting perks, should it be when they make new alts they have a faster leveling experience?

My preference of keeping a class system based on stats and mechanics and keep it away from OOC things such as gaining passive experience. If I were to design the system it would be based on how much RP are you creating for others outside of your circle?

10 - You play.
20 - Small amount of RP in your circle of friends.
30 - You create RP in your settlement hub
40 - You regularly create RP for your region.

50 - You regularly create RP for arelith as a whole.

Attempting to tie it to quality is very subjective. Moving it to something that can be measured can help create something which is legitimate. Moving from the right people like your RP to is the RP created helping build a community and helping the server grow. Help uplift the server culture.

I personally am around that 20-30 mark I'll have a fun story with my friends and in town. I am not trying to do anything beyond that. No huge grand plans. I play a support character and have zero desire to change the overall game world. Now I see people who time and time do create regional RP through their actions who do not have a high RPR score.

[TheDoctor]

Attempting to tie it to quality is very subjective. Moving it to something that can be measured can help create something which is legitimate. Moving from the right people like your RP to is the RP created helping build a community and helping the server grow. Help uplift the server culture.

I personally am around that 20-30 mark I'll have a fun story with my friends and in town. I am not trying to do anything beyond that. No huge grand plans. I play a support character and have zero desire to change the overall game world. Now I see people who time and time do create regional RP through their actions who do not have a high RPR score.

Or you can just follow the process and put in yer application for RPR bump. Unless you have already and was turned down maybe? Its not hard to get the RPR bump. All you really need to do is type out an application on astrolabe and not have it only be one line of... Raise my RPR I deserve it.

[Peacewhisper]

I don't talk to anyone OOC so honestly I have no idea who is RPR 40 and RPR 20. I could make educated guesses but that's all it would be. That said, I've sat at RPR 20 for years, and currently play one of the most successful major reward characters on the server. And I'm sitting on another major reward. So yeah, RPR means very little, it's a quick way for DM's to categorize us players but even then, just because someone is RPR 40 or 50 doesn't mean they can't lose to an RPR 10 or 20. Once you get to RPR 20 and can start rolling for rewards you are pretty much set, nothing higher than that is really required to enjoy playing on Arelith and be successful. If I can do it, so can you!

[Ruzuke]

I don't talk to anyone OOC so honestly I have no idea who is RPR 40 and RPR 20. I could make educated guesses but that's all it would be. That said, I've sat at RPR 20 for years, and currently play one of the most successful major reward characters on the server. And I'm sitting on another major reward. So yeah, RPR means very little, it's a quick way for DM's to categorize us players but even then, just because someone is RPR 40 or 50 doesn't mean they can't lose to an RPR 10 or 20. Once you get to RPR 20 and can start rolling for rewards you are pretty much set, nothing higher than that is really required to enjoy playing on Arelith and be successful. If I can do it, so can you!

You just made my entire case for why there should not be RPR should not exist.

• You are at RPR 20.
• Your RP is having a huge impact on the server. (Successful character).
• It is a wat for DMs to rank us.

As people keep making personal remarks about me. I have a few greater rewards, a major reward. I have had a lot of impact on the server as well. I am also at RPR 20. I do not put in applications to raise it. Last time I did was several years ago with more than raise it. It listed action and RP I had done. Now I just play the game to have fun.

Now just because I can make a work around doesn't mean the rankings (as stated above) shouldn't be fair based on player effort to improve the quality of the server. It doesn't mean there is not room for improvement and those who do have impact in larger group and create a more of a community ICly shouldn't receive the reward.

[Peacewhisper]

You just made my entire case for why there should not be RPR should not exist.

Yeah I'm not really for or against it, to me it seems like an antiquated system that would have worked a lot better back when the player base was much smaller. It's kind of an impossible task for a DM team of less than a dozen people to accurately assess the RP skill of over 2,000 unique individual players. My main point was just don't worry about it too much after reaching RPR 20.

There is a case to be made that it would free up a lot of DM time if they ditched RPR. I'm sure a lot of time gets wasted just responding to apps from people wanting RPR evaluations. A completely automated system would be more efficient, like just letting new players roll for awards after playing a certain amount of time. Then DM's could dedicate their time to more important things, like creating stories, punishing rule breakers, etc.

If we're going to insist on keeping this relic of a system, it should at least be simplified. Do away with RPR 40 and 50, only like 3 people probably ever got those anyways. Just have RPR 10, 20, and 30, and add some more incentives to reward people for reaching a rating of 30. Right now, the higher RPR's seem so unattainable nobody bothers, if 30 was the cap and it came with lots of goodies people would probably improve their RP.

[Dreams]

I think we should have more tiers.

10 - "hooded person", frequent memes and voicelines, exists as a craftbot, potentially used to mule items for their alt account, doesn't seek out roleplay, doesn't respond to what happens around them, doesn't acknowledge the setting at all. MMO-style play.
20
30
40 - Most players
50 - are between
60 - these four
70 - levels.
80
90
100 - Best player. Good sportsmanship. Open to losing. Doesn't pre-plan outcomes for roleplay. Flexible with the story. Plays according to the rules. Polite and helpful. Genuinely fun to play with, regardless of being on their side or against them. Interesting story. And above all: true to the setting we play in.

[Perplexia]

If you know the right people and they like your RP, they can promote your RP higher.

as somebody who knows the "right people" who like my RP, i can confirm that this is

completely untrue

(or i'm doing something wrong)

anyway, if people spent as much time writing applications for RP evaluation as they do writing forum posts like these, they could all be 50 RPR by now

[Peacewhisper]

If you know the right people and they like your RP, they can promote your RP higher.

as somebody who knows the "right people" who like my RP, i can confirm that this is

completely untrue

(or i'm doing something wrong)

anyway, if people spent as much time writing applications for RP evaluation as they do writing forum posts like these, they could all be 50 RPR by now

You might be doing something wrong because this is what the wiki says:

"To broaden Staff reach, we've added chat command "-recommend", usable by all RPB players. It lets these players recommend others around them for good RP, and has two effects.

*Firstly, if the recommended is currently 10 RPR, they get raised to 20 RPR if the recommending player is 40 or 50 RPB. This will help us get new players into the system faster, and broadens the pool of people who can notice them.
*Secondly, it logs the recommendation and broadcasts it to the DMs (both in game and to Discord). This is both to monitor use of it, and so that DMs get more input on who is worth reviewing for a higher rating."

They can only raise you immediately from 10 to 20, anything higher than that requires DM approval. But it is definitely a thing. I can't comment on how often this actually gets done or if it is always fair or not. I personally don't have a problem with it because it basically just means more people get to roll for awards.

[TheDoctor]

If you know the right people and they like your RP, they can promote your RP higher.

as somebody who knows the "right people" who like my RP, i can confirm that this is

completely untrue

(or i'm doing something wrong)

anyway, if people spent as much time writing applications for RP evaluation as they do writing forum posts like these, they could all be 50 RPR by now

You might be doing something wrong because this is what the wiki says:

"To broaden Staff reach, we've added chat command "-recommend", usable by all RPB players. It lets these players recommend others around them for good RP, and has two effects.

*Firstly, if the recommended is currently 10 RPR, they get raised to 20 RPR if the recommending player is 40 or 50 RPB. This will help us get new players into the system faster, and broadens the pool of people who can notice them.
*Secondly, it logs the recommendation and broadcasts it to the DMs (both in game and to Discord). This is both to monitor use of it, and so that DMs get more input on who is worth reviewing for a higher rating."

They can only raise you immediately from 10 to 20, anything higher than that requires DM approval. But it is definitely a thing. I can't comment on how often this actually gets done or if it is always fair or not. I personally don't have a problem with it because it basically just means more people get to roll for awards.

Thats only to get to 20. After that you.... Well... They said it for me...

anyway, if people spent as much time writing applications for RP evaluation as they do writing forum posts like these, they could all be 50 RPR by now

[MRFTW]

anyway, if people spent as much time writing applications for RP evaluation as they do writing forum posts like these, they could all be 50 RPR by now

Hopefully this is satire.

One is a feedback thread, the other is asking the grown-ups for head pats.

I don't talk to anyone OOC

This is actual RPR 50 behaviour.

[Iceborn]

This was discussed to the ground recently, and I believe it was decided to leave everything as-is.
Your RPR is not your ranking, your rating, or a reflection of your constant quality as a player - ultimately a higher RPR just means that at some point of your career you were both notorious enough and you generated the kind of roleplay that the DMs want to promote.
If anything, we could change the name so that people feel less graded, but functionality, the system is not likely to change.

My suggestion - Ignore RPR and just play the game.
If you want higher RPR, we have a very neat website to handle requests and a lot of people over discord that can give some good tips on how to format your requests.