Arelith

Hm - that's possible! And would make sense given the spell type. You should charm them and then pickpocket them...

I fixed a bug the other day where NPCs would rest and clear themselves of bad states mid combat, so if you were testing before then, you'd've found it worked much worse.

I have never gotten Charm to work successfully in nwn period. I know i was semi curious and cast it on another player i have been playing with. in friendly it just made the AI take over and they just stood there. when hostiled to them, the AI took over and tracked me down. (so no 50% happier event with PC's) (note: this did not auto-hostile the "friendly" PC). I have also noted that using "charm person" on a merchant does not increase their reputation with you at all nor change prices sold or purchased from merchant like nwn wiki says it should.

I remember when i last played on a hack and slash server there was something odd with charm spells where they did not work. This was due to a "reputation" issue with factions. (this may be way off but it was how i recall it being explained) that hostile factions are set at "-100" so a 50% increase only makes them "-50" but since your still negative they are still hostile. So the charm spell effectively had no purpose.

Now arelith has a whole load of custom scripting done so I have no idea if any of the above is applicable on Arelith or even post 1.69.

I know someone else mentioned removing the Hit Dice cap from sleep (this would be awesome) and perhaps for daze as well? I know for my lvl 7 warlock i'm using both those spells to use blast even though they have no effect on the creatures i'm casting them on which is sad.

One other potential bug note? For Tasha's if the creature is immune to tasha's (mind immune?) then they are also not taking the blast damage. however the same creatures (spiders for example) will take blast damage from sleep or daze even though they still can not be effected by the mind based spells.

I'm updating Daze and Sleep as follows.
- Daze will work on any creature with hit dice =< the caster's level (for all casters)
- Sleep will work on any creature with hit dice =< the caster's level, and will affect (caster level + d4) hit dice of creatures total. Empowered, this amount is raised by 50%, so Empowered Sleep is actually quite useful.

Note that most creatures of the same challenge rating as the caster have more hit dice, so neither spell will be especially useful in challenging areas. But this makes them more generally useful, and means that enchanters can put orcs etc to sleep while travelling if they are high enough level.

(Can someone update the spell mods wiki page?).

Re charm - our spells still use EffectCharmed. http://www.nwnlexicon.com/index.php?title=EffectCharmed suggests it actually increases personal reputation by 100 - but attacking other members of the faction would lower personal reputation again. NWN factions aren't very easy to use, I have to admit...

Would using empower spell also increase the damage of the warlock blast?

I'm pretty sure the way mith implemented it means that the warlock damage is unaffected by metamagic as it is only applied by the spell, rather than affected by it.

So I'd assume maximised and empowered don't affect damage.

Charm is, indeed, pretty much completely useless on Arelith.

I experimented with it on an enchanter. On hostile mobs, it would wear off in basically no time whatsoever (i.e. I seem to recall it lasting, maybe, half a round? Tops?) On players, hilariously, it would turn them hostile and then force them to attack me! I nearly died once, because I successfully charmed someone.

Pepper, when did you last test? Because I made quite a lot of adjustments to Charm over the years (some time last year, to remove charm spells from the list of hostile spells that trigger the AI to set you to hostile, and a few weeks ago to stop them resting and removing it).

Correct, Empower/Maximise do nothing to blast damage.

I remember a character of mine being charmed and not turning hostile, and if I remember correctly, it was one of Peppermint's characters doing the charming! I also remember not long ago casting charm and not causing hostilities on PC's.

It'd be kind of cool if casting Charm Person on an NPC Vendor got you lower prices. Haha!

Love to see some Sleep buff! It's great for pacific chars.
All versions are updated or only warlock's?

All versions.

The only thing i´d request is at least one more healing spell for the feylocks... the cantrip takes forever to use, it´s quite a chore

So my maths may be a bit off here, and understanding that NwN does not like halves for damage and so on, I've a series of questions I've not been high enough level to answer yet...

Average for a warlock's icestorm goes from 45 (at level 30 it's 15d6) to 45 +60 so approx. 105 (doubled to account for haste)?
Using 2x a normal spell (via haste) would = about 120ish damage a round to a single target?
This seems off, but I make no claim to any numerical prowess (as I've proven on every iteration of the forums).


The stats Yellena posted were for all the following sources: Gate (spell), the final summon creature and G. Conj. focus, and Epic BG summon?
G. Conj. affects warlock summons as normal but boosting summons up one level?

Warlock physical and elemental DR does stack with other sources? (It should, but just for clarification by someone with it, I'll ask)

Because there's no involvement of the number 0 in the damage calculation (1,2,3,4,5,6) The average damage for a d6 is actually 3.5. So when you multiply that by 15 you have an average of 52 a spell damage.

As with the above a d4 is actually 2.5 (1,2,3,4). So for a 30th level warlock the damage would be 30 multiplied by 2.5 and thus would be on average 75.

These two damage types are "mostly" unavoidable (dr affects the bludgeoning damage from ice storm and elemental shields the cold) when you bring haste into the equation (again assuming the character lacks the above two resistances/reductions) You'd have 254 unavoidable damage.

Having tested the G.Conj. the summons are increased by one level, yes. So summon 1 becomes a Quasit/Imp. Summon 2 a Succubus/Erinyes. Summon 3 a Vrock/???. Summon 4 a Greater Vrock/???. Summon creature 5 the gate balor/pitfiend. Summon creature 6 an improved gate balor lord/pitfiend.

As far as the natural elemental/physical damage reduction is concerned. As it's likely on a hide item it stacks with feats and spell affects. It doesn't stack with items, however.

one day remains wrote:As far as the natural elemental/physical damage reduction is concerned. As it's on a hide item it stacks with feats and spell affects.

You can confirm this without doubt?

I'd assume, with a fair amount of certainty, that the warlock reductions are on a PC Hide item. This would make them non-stackable with items (as it's already on an item and these properties override rather than working additively like damage resistance) but stackable with everything else.

That being said, I only assume they're on a PC Hide and cannot without confirmation from Mith etc say that it's 100% the case.

Correct.

The damage reduction ought to stack with the 10% immunities shield, helmets and armor can provide, which isn't entirely insignificant!

The feats obviously stick to their normal limits. An example of the resistances would be as below

So a level 30 Fiendlock with:
Warlock elemental resistance: acid (15/--) (item prop)
Resist element: acid (5/--) (feat)
Epic elemental resistance: acid II (20/--) (feat)
Resistant essence: Acid (5/--) (item prop)

Would only get the Warlock resistance and Epic elemental resistances (making their base reduction 35/--) due to the prior mentioned overriding nature of reductions; despite that being the case these resistance would also stack with the energy buffer line of spells.

Mindcraft wrote:The damage reduction ought to stack with the 10% immunities shield, helmets and armor can provide, which isn't entirely insignificant!

It does indeed stack, damage immunity is taken into account before damage resistance/reduction also so you get a larger amount taken off before it hits you.

All fixed on my end now! thanks!

Can you restate that so I can effectively copy/past this into the Wiki so people can understand how the mechanics work

http://nwn.wikia.com/wiki/Damage_resistance should help.

So... a level 21 Warlock gets 5/- physical resistance from their Warlock 20 boon. That is applied as an item property. If they also had Epic DR I (3/- physical), the two stack, and they have 8/- DR. If you had an old Archer's Belt (item that gives 5/- piercing) it wouldn't help you, as it wouldn't stack with the Warlock 20 boon - you would still have 8/- to piercing.

This damage resistance also stacks with damage reduction from Ghostly Visage, Stoneskin etc.

Was FL's warlock to be changed to this as well?
I'd think it'd be fine with the old warlock tbh, maybe. Though I've only really talked to one other person who played a warlock on Fl, they seemed to think that it was alright as it was, for FL itself.
I think that's what they thought at least, the PC certainly seemed to be fairly powerful as other high leveled ones.

It will change, but has not changed yet.

Mithreas wrote:(Can someone update the spell mods wiki page?).

http://wiki.arelith.com/Spell_changes#C ... ual_Spells