Arelith

Anyone that so much as sneezes on the dang things can just force them open, DMs use this to force NPCs and monsters in, Players abuse this to ignore PC enforcement, and its literally beyond pointless. Seriously...it should not be so simple to ignore, and with the factions system busted, everyone is just ignoring crap because no PCs have any power to do anything until the factions are fixed. So were just going in a circle of lock the gate, break the gate, lock the gate, break the gate....which is both dumb and frustrating.

maybe gates that block off entire settlements wasnt a good idea to begin with

Cortex wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 11:29 am maybe gates that block off entire settlements wasnt a good idea to begin with

You mean like Myons Mythal? or the Grottos gate that only opens for Earthkin?

Even though someone might think your point is valid, you should reconsider your tone.

I don't think anyone likes being addressed with 'fix the dang <x>'. It comes across as if you feel rather entitled. Which you aren't.

With The Sky Below My Feet wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 11:33 am Even though someone might think your point is valid, you should reconsider your tone.

I don't think anyone likes being addressed with 'fix the dang <x>'. It comes across as if you feel rather entitled. Which you aren't.

Edited as your right, frustrating...

Gods_Kill_People wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 11:32 am

Cortex wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 11:29 am maybe gates that block off entire settlements wasnt a good idea to begin with

You mean like Myons Mythal? or the Grottos gate that only opens for Earthkin?

I can only assume you don't know my history of being openly against the Mythal or similar gates.

Oh, I am as well, but as they are not likely going anywhere..so all I can do is try to fix what people just abuse as a flimsy mechanic.

Thanks for changing the title!

This needs more information. DC for what? For open lock? It should be non-openable without a key. Are they destroying it after hitting it a thousand times?

Also DM Side, we can just unlock it or lock it at will for certain story purposes, or even delete it. Very different situation.

Sending this to you in PMs as it has player info and such.

Thanks!

Gods_Kill_People wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 11:32 amYou mean like Myons Mythal?

The mythal is a bad idea and I want a totally different solution implemented which does not involve giving the impression of alignment and race-locking an entire settlement, causing mass OOC resentment among other players, and making it so the settlement runs the risk of extreme stagnation.

Signed,
Person playing a Myon elf.

Aodh Lazuli wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 12:38 pm

Gods_Kill_People wrote: Mon May 07, 2018 11:32 amYou mean like Myons Mythal?

The mythal is a bad idea and I want a totally different solution implemented which does not involve giving the impression of alignment and race-locking an entire settlement, causing mass OOC resentment among other players, and making it so the settlement runs the risk of extreme stagnation.

Signed,
Person playing a Myon elf.

What do you think of a system akin, mechanically, to the exile one, where Myon's leadership can allow non-Elves deemed trustworthy enough to enter the city?

Myon guards auto-hostile some races anyway.

Is the mythal even needed at that point?

I say no. Crash it into the ground, make it a normal city.

Mythal makes sense as elves are the one race that's least likely to want just anybody walking around their town. Maybe no mythal but it wouldn't make sense if it was simply a come on in and walk abut freely like Cordor. ELves whole history is about moving away when things get close.

perhaps myon should move away then and get replaced with a less high-profile elf settlement

No need to derail threads. Locking.