Arelith

triaddraykin wrote: Wed Aug 01, 2018 7:38 pm For what's it's worth, I was about to create a post like this myself. Even an extended Greater Planar binding didn't last terribly long in combat, and was usually a backup at best. Now... Well, they look cool? Good if you don't have the Elemental summon streams?

Several new streams are now hidden throughout the gameworld.

Ork wrote: Thu Aug 02, 2018 12:27 am

Several new streams are now hidden throughout the gameworld.

I've a feeling like it has something to do with this. There must be more powerful summoning streams out there to draw from that warrant the decoupling.

Wytchee wrote: Wed Aug 01, 2018 4:59 pm ... from conjuration bonuses.

Hey! What's the decision behind this?

Is another buff to these summons in the works? That'd be great! The hours/level duration is super nice but this is still, mechanically, a nerf to these summons who were already largely useless past mid-to-late teens (I am speaking mostly of tier-4 GPB summons *is a biased arcane caster*). Thanks.

yellowcateyes wrote: Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:08 amThat aside, ork is correct in that there are new summons available for this line of spells, hidden in the gameworld.

yellowcateyes wrote: Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:08 am

Wytchee wrote: Wed Aug 01, 2018 4:59 pm ... from conjuration bonuses.

Hey! What's the decision behind this?

Is another buff to these summons in the works? That'd be great! The hours/level duration is super nice but this is still, mechanically, a nerf to these summons who were already largely useless past mid-to-late teens (I am speaking mostly of tier-4 GPB summons *is a biased arcane caster*). Thanks.

By 'decoupling,' this is what is meant: The Planar line of spells retain a +2 bonus to relevant stats regardless of whether the PC has Conjuration feats or not. This, combined with their lengthy duration, means they will be useful for casters who did not go Conjuration (and will occasionally be a decent alternate summon for those that did.) The goal was to make Conjuration slightly less mandatory for spellcasters looking to do things on their own.

This was not fully explained in the announcement post, which is my fault. The update had a lot of moving parts and full documentation of it all is still pending.

That aside, ork is correct in that there are new summons available for this line of spells, hidden in the gameworld.

yellowcateyes wrote: Thu Aug 02, 2018 4:08 amThat aside, ork is correct in that there are new summons available for this line of spells, hidden in the gameworld.

Alox wrote: Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:59 pm Now that Greater planar binding is the last long duration outsider summon, would it be possible to have it included into the list of summon spells that is affected by epic levels? Like summon creature IX, Gate (which is short lived), and so forth.

Alox wrote: Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:59 pm Thank you for the new content! Really great!

One question:

Now that Greater planar binding is the last long duration outsider summon, would it be possible to have it included into the list of summon spells that is affected by epic levels? Like summon creature IX, Gate (which is short lived), and so forth.