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Totem form, EDK and Shades
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:22 pm
by Nekonecro
Hey, so I'm a wizard with a ranger dip. Took a parrot totem for flavour on my summons.
Now however my EDK and Shades don't take the form of a parrot anymore?
Could I get an explaination to the change as I've lost a nice piece of fun to my character?
I'm kinda upset over this, they used to make me smile so much.

Re: Totem form, EDK and Shades
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:33 pm
by Imperatrix
I'm sad if this is an intentional change. It was a nice bit of flavour for casters taking a ranger dip, and great for those wanting to add a little nature RP into their character.
Re: Totem form, EDK and Shades
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:47 pm
by Red Ropes
I can understand the barring of other streams like SHADOWS, UNDEAD, PLANAR - but the change of the EDK doesn't change much and fits well with totemic druids.
Re: Totem form, EDK and Shades
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:22 pm
by Revelations
Haven't tested it, but I don't see how making EDK un-totem-able would seem like a good and necessary step.
I'm providently upset over it too until it's proven a bug or oversight, not only because it screws over a (imo) cool part of my concept, but also because totems have been a really really cool way to flavour concepts in general.
Re: Totem form, EDK and Shades
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:27 pm
by LittleWeasel
There was a bug in the system that allowed people to use totemic shape summons even without fulfilling the level / class pre requisites.
This bugfix was supposed to address that, and in addition stop undead/aberrations/outsiders/devils/demons to take totemic forms.
Beasts/animals/magical beasts (including dragons - if totemic level requirements are met) should not have been affected. Thanks for bringing this to our attention. We’ll be tweaking further.
Re: Totem form, EDK and Shades
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:57 pm
by Revelations
What's a totemic level requirement?
EDK still yields a dragon.
Re: Totem form, EDK and Shades
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:17 pm
by LittleWeasel
The fix for this will be a few days before it’s in.
Totemic level requirements: Totem Druid Levels, or Totem Ranger levels.
Re: Totem form, EDK and Shades
Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:43 pm
by Revelations
Thank you LW! (And everyone else working on it!)
Re: Totem form, EDK and Shades
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:55 am
by The Kriv
So, let me throw in a "ferrinstance"
ferrinstance, what if my wizard who took the Ranger Dip to acquire the Ranger-Totem decided that the Ranger levels turned out to be too much of a detriment fo the build, and -removed- the ranger levels through de-leveling after the Totem was already applied... there is a protection in place to remove the totem-forms from my wizard, so that the summoned creatures could go back to normal, yes?
Re: Totem form, EDK and Shades
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:00 pm
by Alox
The Kriv wrote: Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:55 am
So, let me throw in a "ferrinstance"
ferrinstance, what if my wizard who took the Ranger Dip to acquire the Ranger-Totem decided that the Ranger levels turned out to be too much of a detriment fo the build, and -removed- the ranger levels through de-leveling after the Totem was already applied... there is a protection in place to remove the totem-forms from my wizard, so that the summoned creatures could go back to normal, yes?
Pretty sure that this is the reason that they have implemented a check for class and level on casting a summon.
The addition that some summons no longer gets "totemized" is a new feature...
Re: Totem form, EDK and Shades
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2019 4:37 pm
by Red Ropes
I don't think the EDK has been fixed up yet.