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The tax in the hub seems to hurt shop owners rather than help anyone.

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 3:50 pm
by RapidReload
The 10% tax in the Hub is rough on the players who get one. I don't own or operate a shop there, so I have no stake it it's removal or existence. What it has created is better prices on things one transition or two transitions away because Treadstone doesn't have that. The Spiders Web doesn't have that. The tax doesn't go to anyone or benefit the city in any meaningful way, and I haven't seen any evidence that it drives sales and rp to the districts. The Allure of the Hub used to be, awesome location and you don't have to pay tax to a district. You still get the good location sure. But as a player my experience has been walking two transitions away to buy my goods in the web or treadstone.

Re: The tax in the hub seems to hurt shop owners rather than help anyone.

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:30 pm
by Cerk Evermoore
It's a good thing for the other shops in Andunor.

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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:40 pm
by Sartain
I'm going to go ahead and guess that the rest of Andunor would be pretty much a ghost town of there was no tax in the Hub, simply because it's the Nexus of the city.
As it is, the Hub is already overrun at most times while I rarely run into anybody pretty much anywhere else

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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:43 pm
by ActionReplay
Those taxes has generated a lot of profit for Andunor, a few millions last time I checked. So the money is not wasted, it will be distributed in some fashion in the future I've yet to pick this up as a project.

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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:39 pm
by TimeAdept
Sartain wrote: Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:40 pm I'm going to go ahead and guess that the rest of Andunor would be pretty much a ghost town of there was no tax in the Hub, simply because it's the Nexus of the city.
As it is, the Hub is already overrun at most times while I rarely run into anybody pretty much anywhere else
there was no tax in the hub before, and the city operated just the same
What it has created is better prices on things one transition or two transitions away because Treadstone doesn't have that. The Spiders Web doesn't have that.
it is really weird that there's 'tax havens' all over andunor except for the hub, yes

if the logic being applied is that the city feels like taxing everything neutral, you'd think they would actually tax everything neutral

and if the districts felt like attracting merchants, you'd think they'd lower their taxes below the hard coded 10% of the neutral zones to try to attract merchants
It's a good thing for the other shops in Andunor.
it would be if they stocked anything worth selling or had competitive prices despite the hub merchants having to recoup tax

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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:48 pm
by Tarkus the dog
I mean if you manage to snag a shop in the Hub the last thing on that person's mind should be the tax.

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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:51 pm
by Ork
You pay a 10% tax for literally the best location in the UD.

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Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:24 pm
by Nitro
Arguably the second best position on the server too (possibly the best) just by how much traffic that location gets.

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Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:13 am
by TimeAdept
ActionReplay wrote: Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:43 pm Those taxes has generated a lot of profit for Andunor, a few millions last time I checked. So the money is not wasted, it will be distributed in some fashion in the future I've yet to pick this up as a project.
The data side of me is super interested in stuff like breakdowns by store and all this info we could look at and compile especially with the advent of the sales logs...

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Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:36 am
by Xerah
Hub stores are most likely the best locations on the server. Merchantile is probably close or better.

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Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:23 am
by Skibbles
The Hub is very likely the best location for a shop in the whole server. I would set up shop without thinking twice if the tax was 15%, much less 10%.

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Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2019 4:17 pm
by Lewd
As someone who owned a shop right next to the bank in the Hub, I can let you know that the 10% tax is definitely not something a shop owner there would suffer from.

Put commonly requested goods in there, increase the price to 10-20% above the average of the rest of Andunor, and you'll still be making millions in no time.