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Small Race and Katana
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 9:33 pm
by Quidix
Description of Bug Experienced:
It seems small races cannot active -twohand for Katana (given it's a small weapon, if a medium creature can twohand it, then why not a small creature?)
Steps to reproduce the Bug:
Equip a Katana as a small race, try to type -twohand
Expected Result:
Receive -twohand 1.5x STR bonus when using Katana as a small race
Actual Result:
No extra STR bonus and cannot activate -twohand
Re: Small Race and Katana
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:06 am
by Ebonstar
activate two-hand is for small weapons and medium race or tiny weapon in small race
Re: Small Race and Katana
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:24 am
by malcolm_mountainslayer
Ebonstar wrote: Sun Jun 23, 2019 12:06 am
activate two-hand is for small weapons and medium race or tiny weapon in small race
That makes no sense. The classic -twohand command weapon is bastard sword which id medium weapon for medium creature. Same goes for great swords and ogres.
It is to my understanding that -twohand doed not work at all for smsll races and the dev team seems to be ok with that (wiki should state it)
What bothers me, which i also already reported was deflect arrows not working with small creature and katana.
Re: Small Race and Katana
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:33 am
by Ebonstar
i may be wrong, which i admit ive been in the past.
Best bet is go on Discord and talk to the mechanic experts there
Re: Small Race and Katana
Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:01 pm
by Quidix
The rule-of-thumb for bastard sword, spear and dwarven waraxe is "Medium weapon for Medium size race" can be twohanded - ie "same size category race and weapon" .
Katana allows one to two-hand even if it is one size smaller for a medium race, which is an exception.
Now, the odd part is that for a small race katana is indeed "same size category race and weapon", so it should follow the typical principle, even without needing an exception. Hence, I'd expect katana to be two-handable for a halfling.
Re: Small Race and Katana
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:51 pm
by malcolm_mountainslayer
Quidix wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:01 pm
The rule-of-thumb for bastard sword, spear and dwarven waraxe is "Medium weapon for Medium size race" can be twohanded - ie "same size category race and weapon" .
Katana allows one to two-hand even if it is one size smaller for a medium race, which is an exception.
Now, the odd part is that for a small race katana is indeed "same size category race and weapon", so it should follow the typical principle, even without needing an exception. Hence, I'd expect katana to be two-handable for a halfling.
As did I and those weeks ago i tried pestering for answers. But you can not. One DM, who did not confirm if it was merely overlooked or not, even concluded its working as intended.
Which means they don't consider it to matter or fully intend the -twohand command to remain fully non-functional (unless really recently changed). My only desire is for the updates page to reflect this.
Re: Small Race and Katana
Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2019 12:20 am
by Spyre
malcolm_mountainslayer wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:51 pm
Quidix wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:01 pm
The rule-of-thumb for bastard sword, spear and dwarven waraxe is "Medium weapon for Medium size race" can be twohanded - ie "same size category race and weapon" .
Katana allows one to two-hand even if it is one size smaller for a medium race, which is an exception.
Now, the odd part is that for a small race katana is indeed "same size category race and weapon", so it should follow the typical principle, even without needing an exception. Hence, I'd expect katana to be two-handable for a halfling.
As did I and those weeks ago i tried pestering for answers. But you can not. One DM, who did not confirm if it was merely overlooked or not, even concluded its working as intended.
Which means they don't consider it to matter or fully intend the -twohand command to remain fully non-functional (unless really recently changed). My only desire is for the updates page to reflect this.
DMs don’t handle content updates. They can’t promise they will be addressed or modified. That is the responsibility of our contributors. They can only bring awareness to these reports.