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Zoo Buffs QoL Bugs

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 8:21 am
by Skarain
ActionReplay wrote:The Zoo buff Spells (Bull's Strength, Cat's Grace etc) receives a QoL update and will now stack when cast without Meta Magic, max +5. Meaning if you cast Bull's Strength once and it gives you +3 STR you can cast it again and the value will stack on top of the previous +3 STR to a max of +5.

This hasn't really been tested so let me know how this works out for you.
Tested on a level 22 Kobold Sorcerer. Without applying Metamagic, I cast Bull's Strength 6x times

+3
+2
+2
+2
+2
+5

The +2's didn't stack on top of the earliest +3, and it took six casts until I got a total of +5 bonus to show on the STR attribute of the character.

Tested same on Cat's Grace, no metamagic, no stacking. Two +3 casts did not stack to result in a +5 or even +4 in total.

Tested same on Bear's Endurance, no metamagic. No stacking resulted. Multiple +3 and +4, or +2 and +3 did not stack to +5.

Re: Zoo Buffs QoL Bugs

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 9:41 am
by ActionReplay
Skarain wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2019 8:21 am
ActionReplay wrote:The Zoo buff Spells (Bull's Strength, Cat's Grace etc) receives a QoL update and will now stack when cast without Meta Magic, max +5. Meaning if you cast Bull's Strength once and it gives you +3 STR you can cast it again and the value will stack on top of the previous +3 STR to a max of +5.

This hasn't really been tested so let me know how this works out for you.
Tested on a level 22 Kobold Sorcerer. Without applying Metamagic, I cast Bull's Strength 6x times

+3
+2
+2
+2
+2
+5

The +2's didn't stack on top of the earliest +3, and it took six casts until I got a total of +5 bonus to show on the STR attribute of the character.

Tested same on Cat's Grace, no metamagic, no stacking. Two +3 casts did not stack to result in a +5 or even +4 in total.

Tested same on Bear's Endurance, no metamagic. No stacking resulted. Multiple +3 and +4, or +2 and +3 did not stack to +5.
Fiddlestick, alright I'll look into this after Christmas.

Re: Zoo Buffs QoL Bugs

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 9:51 am
by ActionReplay
Actually I'm posting a small patch to this just for Bull's Strength to see if that solves it. If it does then I'll apply it to the rest of the Zoo spells.

Re: Zoo Buffs QoL Bugs

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 10:01 am
by Orian_666
ActionReplay wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2019 9:51 am Actually I'm posting a small patch to this just for Bull's Strength to see if that solves it. If it does then I'll apply it to the rest of the Zoo spells.
Will the patch require a reset for it to go into effect?
I got time to hop on real fast to test it out when it's done to confirm for you.

Re: Zoo Buffs QoL Bugs

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 10:05 am
by ActionReplay
Orian_666 wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2019 10:01 am
ActionReplay wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2019 9:51 am Actually I'm posting a small patch to this just for Bull's Strength to see if that solves it. If it does then I'll apply it to the rest of the Zoo spells.
Will the patch require a reset for it to go into effect?
I got time to hop on real fast to test it out when it's done to confirm for you.
Ill reset Surface real quick for testing then, its pretty quiet there now.

Re: Zoo Buffs QoL Bugs

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 10:07 am
by Orian_666
Okay, keeping an eye on it. I'll jump in when the reset happens and let you know if it worked.

Re: Zoo Buffs QoL Bugs

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 10:21 am
by ActionReplay
Orian_666 wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2019 10:07 am Okay, keeping an eye on it. I'll jump in when the reset happens and let you know if it worked.
Surface has been reset, so try whenever. I won't be available for a couple of days but let me know how it works.

Re: Zoo Buffs QoL Bugs

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 10:30 am
by Orian_666
Still not working unfortunately.
Tested with casting and potions, no stacking at all.

Re: Zoo Buffs QoL Bugs

Posted: Tue Dec 24, 2019 11:01 pm
by -stick-
Seems like skleen's no longer stack with zoo buffs

Re: Zoo Buffs QoL Bugs

Posted: Wed Dec 25, 2019 2:23 pm
by ActionReplay
-stick- wrote: Tue Dec 24, 2019 11:01 pm Seems like skleen's no longer stack with zoo buffs
Has been fixed, available next reset.

Re: Zoo Buffs QoL Bugs

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 6:14 am
by Skarain
Cast on a Kobold Sorcerer in Andunor, using Empowered, without possessing any Transmutation focus feats.

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Is Empowered intended to scale all the way to 8? Previously, the cap for Empowered spells was 7.

I mean.... I am 100% game for Empowered giving a full +4 stat bonus, but it's fair game to ask whether this is a 'bug' or a 'feature'.

Re: Zoo Buffs QoL Bugs

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 9:00 am
by ActionReplay
Skarain wrote: Sat Dec 28, 2019 6:14 am Cast on a Kobold Sorcerer in Andunor, using Empowered, without possessing any Transmutation focus feats.

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Is Empowered intended to scale all the way to 8? Previously, the cap for Empowered spells was 7.

I mean.... I am 100% game for Empowered giving a full +4 stat bonus, but it's fair game to ask whether this is a 'bug' or a 'feature'.
I just rounded up as 5 * 1.5 = 7.5 ≈ 8

If it was 7 before I should tone it back down to that.

As for Skleens not stacking that msy still be an issue.

Re: Zoo Buffs QoL Bugs

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 9:17 am
by Skarain
You can leave it at 8. ;)

I won't mind.

Re: Zoo Buffs QoL Bugs

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 7:46 pm
by ActionReplay
(((: Too late, changed it to 7. As for the Skleen issue mentioned above I tried it and Skleen is stacking on top as expected, managed to raise my STR from 10 to 20 with Empowered Bull's Str and a Pale Blue Ioun Stone Skleen. 19 now with the "nerf".

Re: Zoo Buffs QoL Bugs

Posted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 3:46 am
by AskRyze
Q: Does the normal stacking caps also work with GSF/ESF Transmutation?

Yes. Not the hardcoded +12 though (Which is not so hardcoded anymore but the limit we have on Arelith).