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Yes, I'm suggesting that the new cast will entirely override the previous one in all aspects of it. And as for curse song, you can already spam it for the damage but.. it's not a lot of damage and it's a full round action even if you're hasted.R0GUE wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:16 pm I think you are suggesting that refreshing the song would only reset the timer on buffs, but I guess you would have to ask the devs if it's even possible to separate the hit points from the buffs of a bard song.
Honestly, 48 damage per round in an AOE is far from problematic. That's less than a wizard can output with a single fireball per round and that's unhasted. Same goes for the healing. As long as the temp HP doesn't stack it's just 48 temp HP per round in an AOE, a very budget circle of healing that also ties up the bard doing nothing but casting bard song.R0GUE wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:16 pm I believe the reason it's the way it is, is because of the way it distributes temporary hit points/curse song does damage.
If you allowed bards to spam bard song and/or curse song before it ends, theoretically you could gain massive amounts of temp hit points or do massive damage to opponents.
I think you are suggesting that refreshing the song would only reset the timer on buffs, but I guess you would have to ask the devs if it's even possible to separate the hit points from the buffs of a bard song.
If it is possible, that would be a cool QoL change for bards, but if it's not, I think you could see how bard song spam could be problematic.
Hey I love bards and play one almost exclusively so if you want to help me out I'm all for it!Nitro wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 11:15 pmHonestly, 48 damage per round in an AOE is far from problematic. That's less than a wizard can output with a single fireball per round and that's unhasted. Same goes for the healing. As long as the temp HP doesn't stack it's just 48 temp HP per round in an AOE, a very budget circle of healing that also ties up the bard doing nothing but casting bard song.R0GUE wrote: Mon Dec 30, 2019 9:16 pm I believe the reason it's the way it is, is because of the way it distributes temporary hit points/curse song does damage.
If you allowed bards to spam bard song and/or curse song before it ends, theoretically you could gain massive amounts of temp hit points or do massive damage to opponents.
I think you are suggesting that refreshing the song would only reset the timer on buffs, but I guess you would have to ask the devs if it's even possible to separate the hit points from the buffs of a bard song.
If it is possible, that would be a cool QoL change for bards, but if it's not, I think you could see how bard song spam could be problematic.
Or if they curse song first you can't bard song, or has that been fixed?garrbear758 wrote: Wed Jan 01, 2020 4:01 am What I'd also like to see along with this is the highest level bard song sticking, similarly to how zoo spells work.
Currently, someone with a 3 level bard dip can drop their bard song and entirely negate your big bard energy level 30 song.