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Fighter Helmet

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:40 pm
by Borin Drakkmurl
This item is as old as myself on the server, and I always found its stats a bit odd.

I will straight up confess that I am not the most mechanically minded, and sometimes too many numbers and minuses and pluses will have my head rocking back and forth like a two month old toddler.

That being said, the Fighter Helmet currently gives:

+1 AC
+1 constitution
+ something search
+ something listen

In my head and limited thought capability, for a fighter, would not a helmet be more useful if it was something like

+1 AC
+1 constitution
+ something discipline
+ something heal ( ? )

The old helmet could just be renamed something like a Helmet of the Sentinel, as it fits more, themewise, with what its stats. Perhaps even replace constitution with some other stat or feat.

Just a thought.

Re: Fighter Helmet

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:14 pm
by Straxus
The helmet makes sense to me, as the search allows you to find possible traps, and listen helps you to spot enemies before you engage them.

Constitution = added hit points

And AC... well that goes without saying.

The helmet you were thinking would be more for a priest, for the heal aspect at least.

Discipline would make sense.

Re: Fighter Helmet

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:21 am
by AstralUniverse
Never liked that helmet. The recipe is alright but the properties are often just less useful than a basin helmet with +1 ac and +1 str in those levels. I suggest replacing constitution with str and replacing listen with discipline. This much discipline also makes it a nich end-game item for some builds and it would give the item some usefulness all across the board. That +1 ac in there prevents any serious game-breaking uses.

Re: Fighter Helmet

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:59 am
by Kuma
Straxus wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:14 pm The helmet makes sense to me, as the search allows you to find possible traps, and listen helps you to spot enemies before you engage them.

Constitution = added hit points

And AC... well that goes without saying.

The helmet you were thinking would be more for a priest, for the heal aspect at least.

Discipline would make sense.
the tiny amount of listen and search added don't actually help anyone without skill investment. thematically, maybe, but it's ultimately pointless. a "priest" would make use of wisdom.

heal/disc is actually useful for for a fighter hat

Re: Fighter Helmet

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 12:56 pm
by Borin Drakkmurl
Kuma wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 7:59 am
Straxus wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 11:14 pm The helmet makes sense to me, as the search allows you to find possible traps, and listen helps you to spot enemies before you engage them.

Constitution = added hit points

And AC... well that goes without saying.

The helmet you were thinking would be more for a priest, for the heal aspect at least.

Discipline would make sense.
the tiny amount of listen and search added don't actually help anyone without skill investment. thematically, maybe, but it's ultimately pointless. a "priest" would make use of wisdom.

heal/disc is actually useful for for a fighter hat
This was pretty much my reasoning.