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Light hammers give no assassin hidden danger bonus

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 9:38 pm
by Spriggan Bride
I have a small sized character (identity withheld by request) using a light hammer. They are not getting the assassin hidden danger bonus from tiny weapons when wielding it. They do get it from daggers so it is working otherwise.

Supposedly light hammers were made "tiny" in an update (Oct 15 2019 is one mention) but I am not sure if this ever happened, or if it happened and was changed back without mention. Light hammers are showing as "small" in the description but I would imagine descriptions aren't always changed.

I'm hoping to reach out to the devs before I choose my weapon focus. If the update notes are wrong and it's meant to be and stay a small weapon taking WF:concussion will ruin the build.

Thank you much..!

Re: Light hammers give no assassin hidden danger bonus

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:58 pm
by Archnon
Can I briefly derail your post to say I love your forum name.

Also if it is any help the function as tiny weapons for 2 weapon fighting feats.

Re: Light hammers give no assassin hidden danger bonus

Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:18 pm
by Spriggan Bride
That seems to be true. I tested dual wielding identical hammers vs identical maces with no weapon feats and hammers had higher AB.

Is the "tiny weapon" bonus for assassins checking the weapon size, or is it a specific list someone entered that hammers weren't added to?

Re: Light hammers give no assassin hidden danger bonus

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:03 am
by Archnon
Do the tiny weapons also need to be rogue weapons? I think the light hammer is one of the only tiny weapons that doesn't also fall under rogue proficiency. Shame too. Gnome rogues with +7 hammers sounds fun

Re: Light hammers give no assassin hidden danger bonus

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:08 am
by Spriggan Bride
"Assassins receive a passive AB bonus when wielding a concealable weapon, equal to +1 AB per five class levels. Small characters treat any Tiny weapon as concealable. Medium or larger characters treat any Small or Tiny weapon as concealable."

According to the wiki. Maybe that's not accurate, maybe it's a custom list (Kama and other monk weapons aren't allowed) and light hammers weren't entered.. I don't like to second guess:)

Re: Light hammers give no assassin hidden danger bonus

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:04 am
by Xerah
They might check weapon type specifically. I’m not entirely sure at the moment.

Re: Light hammers give no assassin hidden danger bonus

Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2020 1:35 am
by Xerah
Fixed pending.