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New Rogue Grenades

Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2020 9:45 pm
by WanderingPoet
Separate from general rogue grenade improvements; rogue grenades are the thing that differs rogues from shadowdancers and assassins, since they all share most of the same boosts to specialty weapons, lightly armoured, stealth bonuses, blinding speed, and both get the best rogue bonus feats. Grenades are what make rogues a better utility than the high defense SD and high damage assassin.

1. Streams for Fire/Acid bombs: At level 20 allow the use of the various elemental streams to change the damage type/cloud type of the acid bomb/fire bomb when thrown. Fire bomb leaves a cloud that does nothing, acid bomb's cloud leaves one that slows/damages. So this would let you throw a cold bomb (water) with that slows/damages or doesn't, an electric bomb(air), an acid bomb(earth) or a fire bomb(fire). Bonus would be if no stream is selected it does piercing damage (for shrapnel).

If not via streams then just having more recipes would be great.

2. Dragon Umbrage bomb: Level 21 bomb which gives everyone +4 to saves versus fear. The bomb also reduces the AB and AC of a dragon by 5. Even better if it could reduce the DC of their wing gust by 4. (Dragon's can't be sneak attacked either, so they're very annoying to fight)

3. Mega-Thunderstone: Level 19 bomb which when thrown deafens all in the area, no save. (Deaf only gives a 20% ASF failure, and the current thunderstone is useless.)

4. Pocket Sand: Level 15 bomb which is thrown at a single target for a 2 round blind vs reflex. (Like a more powerful tanglefoot bag, to help get sneak attacks).

5. Stun Bomb: Level 23 bomb which thrown causes a 1 round aoe confusion effect vs will. If affected by the stun bomb they can't be affected by a flashbang or paralytic caltrops or another stun bomb for 3 rounds. (This gives a will save bomb for rogues, for when fighting other rogues!)

Re: New Rogue Grenades

Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:58 pm
by garrbear758
Denied, as rogues do not currently need further buffs to grenades.