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Feylock: Unspoken updates?

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 4:55 pm
by LIAR LIAR
Ive come to understand the class is experiencing changes that are making it into updates without being posted. That seems rather strange, and as well, inappropriately handling it.

Re: Feylock: Unspoken updates?

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 5:10 pm
by Drowboy
Is there a more specific example?

Re: Feylock: Unspoken updates?

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 5:20 pm
by Aren
LIAR LIAR wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 4:55 pm Ive come to understand the class is experiencing changes that are making it into updates without being posted. That seems rather strange, and as well, inappropriately handling it.
How so?

Re: Feylock: Unspoken updates?

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 5:21 pm
by Alyxnia
Drowboy wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 5:10 pm Is there a more specific example?
Well for example we just lost Bears Endurance. I thought I was going crazy last week until I got told about it in the discord dev channel

Re: Feylock: Unspoken updates?

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 5:26 pm
by Aren
Alyxnia wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 5:21 pm
Drowboy wrote: Fri May 28, 2021 5:10 pm Is there a more specific example?
Well for example we just lost Bears Endurance. I thought I was going crazy last week until I got told about it in the discord dev channel
You were never supposed to have Bears Endurance. It was mistakenly added, when Endurance was changed to Bears Endurance and bards were given Bears Endurance. They removed it from the warlock spell book, but you kept it since it was already on your character. It was fixed once you were forced to relevel due to the skill-update.

Re: Feylock: Unspoken updates?

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 5:32 pm
by innerbloom
I noticed this as well, and had to use the search feature in Discord to figure out what happened through the general chat feed.

There was a recent change to the spell list that had been attached to the feylock kit — specifically, endurance was removed.

Apparently the spell being available to feylocks was a bug that occurred some time ago... when the spell was incorporated to the bard kit.

I will admit, it’s a disappointing change.
I feel (perhaps especially considering fiendlock’s dex/str/cha spells...) the two zoo spells included in the feylock kit was appropriate. But that’s just my opinion — I wouldn’t have thought this class needed anything taken away in terms of potential changes.

I would have liked to see an announcement as well — I could have sworn this spell had been written into the wiki for level progression prior to this week. Though I may be mistaken.

No sourness — it was just a surprise!
I think in the future, including these sort of fixes in announcements would be great (if possible)! If for no other reason, to avoid players feeling quietly nerfed. :D

Re: Feylock: Unspoken updates?

Posted: Fri May 28, 2021 8:01 pm
by Spyre
This was the thread for a bug report awhile ago: viewtopic.php?f=52&t=32767&p=257895&hil ... ce#p257895

We can see there was an update to Bard spell songs in the past; however, manual updates have to be done to exempt it from Warlock spell lists so its stripped. At this time, it has been removed unless they wish to implement it as a spell to be had for Warlocks.