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Orog Heavy Sword bug after "Big" Update Wed Nov 17 2021
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 8:40 am
by fulminea
The Orog Heavy Sword in my characters inventory now lacks all special properties. It also had an essence applied. This particular item was also customized with a new name and description, no idea if something like that could affect it. Here is a screenshot of it:
I can't help but give feedback on the new title as well, but I won't open a new feedback thread just for that.
The new name (Orog Slayer-Sword) is misleading, given there is an "Orcslayer" weapon giving +5 AB against orcs/orogs).
Re: Orog Heavy Sword bug after "Big" Update Wed Nov 17 2021
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:54 am
by Kalopsia
Hello, I'm sorry this happened. I've just done some more testing on live with two of the updated items and didn't encounter this issue. Do you remember if you logged in on the same server your character was on before the reset?
I'd also ping the DMs in game. Perhaps there is a chance for a replacement if this turns out to be a one-time issue. If not, expect a scripted workaround/fix in the next few days.
Re: Orog Heavy Sword bug after "Big" Update Wed Nov 17 2021
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 12:45 pm
by fulminea
Sorry no, I don't remember if i logged into the same Server sadly.
Re: Orog Heavy Sword bug after "Big" Update Wed Nov 17 2021
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:00 pm
by ltlukoziuz
Kalopsia wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:54 am
Hello, I'm sorry this happened. I've just done some more testing on live with two of the updated items and didn't encounter this issue. Do you remember if you logged in on the same server your character was on before the reset?
I'd also ping the DMs in game. Perhaps there is a chance for a replacement if this turns out to be a one-time issue. If not, expect a scripted workaround/fix in the next few days.
I would like a clarification overall on old weapons. I got in my community citizen storage an Orcish Blood Sword that I used to wield in the past, but then dropped as I backed out of 50 UMD in my build (which was a big pain to maintain). And now, with the announced changes to it, went to said storage and just pulled it out - only to find it's only partially updated - it got Vamp Regen, but is still on 50 UMD, not 30 as announced. Are old crafts meant to be grandfathered, or be rolled into new versions?

Re: Orog Heavy Sword bug after "Big" Update Wed Nov 17 2021
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:34 pm
by Kalopsia
ltlukoziuz wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:00 pm
Kalopsia wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:54 am
Hello, I'm sorry this happened. I've just done some more testing on live with two of the updated items and didn't encounter this issue. Do you remember if you logged in on the same server your character was on before the reset?
I'd also ping the DMs in game. Perhaps there is a chance for a replacement if this turns out to be a one-time issue. If not, expect a scripted workaround/fix in the next few days.
I would like a clarification overall on old weapons. I got in my community citizen storage an Orcish Blood Sword that I used to wield in the past, but then dropped as I backed out of 50 UMD in my build (which was a big pain to maintain). And now, with the announced changes to it, went to said storage and just pulled it out - only to find it's only partially updated - it got Vamp Regen, but is still on 50 UMD, not 30 as announced. Are old crafts meant to be grandfathered, or be rolled into new versions?
The UMD requirement was meant to drop as well. I'm going to give this particular case a closer look, thanks for reporting!
Re: Orog Heavy Sword bug after "Big" Update Wed Nov 17 2021
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 5:53 pm
by fulminea
My thanks go out to DM Avalon for helping me out and fixing me up with the new version.
I hope this was just a singular case and no one else is affected!
Now I have only one problem left, I cannot customize the blade (top) of the weapon. Is that intentional? I hope it is not...
Re: Orog Heavy Sword bug after "Big" Update Wed Nov 17 2021
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:49 pm
by fulminea
DM potato was so kind to take me aside to see if the lack of customization is a bug.
It appears that the top of the orog heavy sword, described as a SOLID SLAB OF METAL, cannot be changed.
It is stuck on the TRANSPARENT GLASS/ Popsicle aesthetics. I assume this isn't intentional and will be fixed?
Re: Orog Heavy Sword bug after "Big" Update Wed Nov 17 2021
Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:14 pm
by Kalopsia
fulminea wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:49 pm
DM potato was so kind to take me aside to see if the lack of customization is a bug.
It appears that the top of the orog heavy sword, described as a SOLID SLAB OF METAL, cannot be changed.
It is stuck on the TRANSPARENT GLASS/ Popsicle aesthetics. I assume this isn't intentional and will be fixed?
You can use the -saveoutfit and -loadoutfit commands to copy the appearance of a normal greatsword to your replacement if you don't like the defaults :)
Re: Orog Heavy Sword bug after "Big" Update Wed Nov 17 2021
Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 7:49 am
by fulminea
Thank you! I didn't think of that. Everything is good now.
Re: Orog Heavy Sword bug after "Big" Update Wed Nov 17 2021
Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 8:28 am
by ltlukoziuz
Meanwhile, on my end, it looks to be fixed too, even if in a bit awkward manner (though can't test as I dont have enough UMD, not sure if I want to return to higher UMD yet)

Re: Orog Heavy Sword bug after "Big" Update Wed Nov 17 2021
Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 8:58 am
by Kalopsia
ltlukoziuz wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 8:28 am
Meanwhile, on my end, it looks to be fixed too, even if in a bit awkward manner (though can't test as I dont have enough UMD, not sure if I want to return to higher UMD yet)
Thanks for reporting back. It's a bit strange that you ended up with two UMD item properties; I might have to write a cleanup script for this.
Issues like these are actually why updates rarely affect existing items :D I wanted to give it a try anyway to save people some time and prevent disappointment.
Re: Orog Heavy Sword bug after "Big" Update Wed Nov 17 2021
Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 1:10 pm
by ltlukoziuz
Kalopsia wrote: Thu Nov 18, 2021 8:58 am
Thanks for reporting back. It's a bit strange that you ended up with two UMD item properties; I might have to write a cleanup script for this.
Issues like these are actually why updates rarely affect existing items

I wanted to give it a try anyway to save people some time and prevent disappointment.
Well, I did bite the bullet, and yeah, it's 30 UMD, so at least it's working as intended. Though finding out vamp regen on weapons is only 50% proc (instead of Blade Thirst's 100%) was a bit of bummer in finding out, realizing that my onhit regen only got boosted from 8 to 9.5, not 11.
Re: Orog Heavy Sword bug after "Big" Update Wed Nov 17 2021
Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:44 pm
by BuzHund
I've had the same thing happen to me. Logged in on 11/18/2021 at roughly around 5:10 p.m. ET. I logged in on the same server that my character was on, Orog Heavy Sword lost all its properties except the essence.
Re: Orog Heavy Sword bug after "Big" Update Wed Nov 17 2021
Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:15 am
by fulminea
Looks like this might need a general fix.
As a sidenote to everyone affected, the perm essence applied on my orog heavy sword is now lost. I couldnt get another one because I couldnt prove that it had an essence prior to the bug....
For everyone with runed or essenced weapon i highly recommend you find some way to prove it, screenshots or something. Although if the bug already wonked up your weapon it is probably too late.
Re: Orog Heavy Sword bug after "Big" Update Wed Nov 17 2021
Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 9:54 am
by False Nibble
I haven't logged into my Orog character yet in order to avoid this bug, since I imagine every old Orog Heavy Sword is affected.
This may be related to the old script that ran on equipping / unequipping the Orog Armor and weapons, as well as on every server tick. The old script was in place because the racial restriction could not be bypassed by UMD, so it removed the properties from those items if any other race would equip them (at least that's what I think it did, I never actually tested it).
I am quoting below the related server messages that would pop up on equipping / unequipping those items and on every server tick, if you had them equipped.
These are taken from logs before the latest update.
On Server Tick
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You receive a little roleplay bonus.
The time is now 22:30.
The magical bond grows stronger
You have multiple items equipped or spell effects active that give an Armor AC bonus and the effects will not stack.
The magical bond grows stronger
Adding Properties
Properties Added
On Unequipping Weapon
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You have broken the bond with your Weapon
On Unequpping Armor
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You have broken the bond with your Armour
On Equipping Weapon
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The power fades from this Weapon
The magical bond grows stronger
Adding Properties
Properties Added
On Equipping Armor
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The power fades from this Armour
The magical bond grows stronger
Hopefully this will help with tracking down the bug.
Thanks for your time.
Re: Orog Heavy Sword bug after "Big" Update Wed Nov 17 2021
Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 11:11 am
by Kalopsia
That's a solid hint - I'm gonna have a look at those scripts next. Thanks for your input!
Re: Orog Heavy Sword bug after "Big" Update Wed Nov 17 2021
Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 12:34 pm
by Kalopsia
I think I've found the culprit. Will let you know when the fix is live!
Re: Orog Heavy Sword bug after "Big" Update Wed Nov 17 2021
Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 2:26 pm
by Kalopsia
False Nibble wrote: Fri Nov 19, 2021 9:54 am
I haven't logged into my Orog character yet in order to avoid this bug, since I imagine every old Orog Heavy Sword is affected.
Thanks for your time.
It should be safe to login with your character now.
During some last minute testing on live, I've noticed a minor issue with double Enhancement Bonus and Keen properties (which do not stack), but these will get fixed in a day or two when my update has made it to the main servers. If not, let me know! :)
Re: Orog Heavy Sword bug after "Big" Update Wed Nov 17 2021
Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 2:36 pm
by BuzHund
I just logged in this morning and looks to be back to normal, thank you Kalopsia.
Re: Orog Heavy Sword bug after "Big" Update Wed Nov 17 2021
Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 5:08 pm
by False Nibble
I've logged into my character as well and it looks fine, aside from the minor issues you already mentioned.
Will keep you informed under this topic should any other issues come up.
Thanks for the quick fix!