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Cloaker Spiral Writ
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 4:16 pm
by Skibbles
Disclaimer: I haven't read or run this writ personally.
But I do have -ama toggled (kudos to whoever added this), and I am being bombarded with questions and confusion about it.
Easily this has become the most frequent subject I'm getting in tells.
Something about the writ must be worded oddly, or too vague, or the access is too restricted, or something. I think it's worth a look, because there's a lot of confusion for players going on.
Re: Cloaker Spiral Writ
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:14 pm
by CNS
Like many shadowplane writs its not imediately obvious where you have to go to find it. I think that's by design?
The boss probably needs a look, especially as the writ has a level range of up to 25, its easily a much harder boss than that and the writ asks you kill it.
(Also the boss isn't an arelith custom creature its straight out of the default pallette)
Re: Cloaker Spiral Writ
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:20 pm
by Void
Skibbles wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 4:16 pm
Disclaimer: I haven't read or run this writ personally.
But I do have -ama toggled (kudos to whoever added this), and I am being bombarded with questions and confusion about it.
Easily this has become the most frequent subject I'm getting in tells.
Something about the writ must be worded oddly, or too vague, or the access is too restricted, or something. I think it's worth a look, because there's a lot of confusion for players going on.
I finished this writ with one of my characters.
The problem about this writ is that it talks about
Undrenzee. This is incredibly misleading, and sends you on a wild goose chase. I also have no idea how you're supposed to approach the writ from its intended entry point, or to be more precise, how are you supposed to reach the intended entry point. When I finished it, I basically managed to get into the area from the wrong side. It was clear that I entered through a possible exit and going through that way took a lot of patience. Attempts to investigate the entrypoint through IC means were unhelpful as well.
Also it is not really a shadowplane writ, as it appears in Andunor Hub.
Re: Cloaker Spiral Writ
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:24 pm
by Skibbles
The amount of questions I get about the other shadowplane writs are near to zero, yet this one is almost daily. That's a red flag to me.
I really like having -ama enabled, being helpful and getting all sorts of great questions, but this is clearly more confusing than even the Derro writ which is thankfully becoming less frequently asked.
That cloaker lord is nasty though, that's for sure.
Void wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:20 pm
The problem about this writ is that it talks about Undrenzee.
That has to be a mistake. I'm very familiar with the spiral, or at least I thought so, and I do not think any part of it is related to the Undrenzee at all. Maybe it might mean the Saltspar gondola can give access, but I am purely guessing that since it was the Outpost gondola that did (is it the same? Not sure.)
Re: Cloaker Spiral Writ
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:32 pm
by Void
Skibbles wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:24 pm
That has to be a mistake. I'm very familiar with the spiral, or at least I thought so, and I do not think any part of it is related to the Undrenzee at all. Maybe it might mean the Saltspar gondola can give access, but I am purely guessing that since it was the Outpost gondola that did (is it the same? Not sure.)
Been a while till I finished it but the text went something like:
Cloakers have designs on andunor blahblahblah,
canopy raises above waters of undrenzee blahblahblah defeat them blahblahblah.
When I saw that description I was close to thinking that maybe this area can be only reached by a ship. I'm still not sure where the heck Undrenzee even is, as any kind of river water bodies are nowhere close to that area.
Could probably explain more, but there's FOIG information in there.
Re: Cloaker Spiral Writ
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:42 pm
by Skibbles
One used to be able to sail there using the player-owned gondola at the Outpost, but it never seemed to make sense since the area you arrive at doesn't even have water and the boat just... hovers above the ground. The spiral has remained mostly unchanged for like five years so it lacks the polish, haks, and general uplifting that many of Arelith's modern areas have.
Either way, yes, it's confusing. I've been trying to help both IC and OOC, and it's been quite busy on this front trying to get players in. I'm hoping something gives a bit here.
Re: Cloaker Spiral Writ
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:50 pm
by Archnon
So there are two cloaker writs. One is the embassy on the Shadowplane. One is the spiral itself. The key system is a bit confusing there and I think it is one of those once-every-24-hours situations for key drops. Without the key it can be kind of tough to get it. There is at least 1 boat that will take you directly to the Spiral and put you at the exit but it is FOIG.
My big complaint is that cloakers are still listed as moon elves I believe. This could really use an update.
Re: Cloaker Spiral Writ
Posted: Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:53 pm
by Void
Archnon wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:50 pm
My big complaint is that cloakers are still listed as moon elves I believe. This could really use an update.
Yep, they are listed as moon elves.
And the writ I was doing was the Andunor one. The spiral.