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Lawful Evil Summoning Slaads for Planar Conduit
Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 8:44 pm
by Painus
Description of Bug Experienced:
I took Planar Conduit on a Lawful Evil character, going off the Wiki information at
http://wiki.nwnarelith.com/Spell_changes that LE characters use the Constructs stream to summon the Formians. Instead, my character summoned the Slaads.
EDIT: This was on both PGCC and Live. The below screenshots are of PGCC, as I hadn't gotten Planar Conduit on Live yet. I appended screenshots from Live on the post below this OP.
Steps to reproduce the Bug:
Be Lawful Evil, take Planar Conduit, cast it.
Expected Result:
Summoned Formian Myrmarch Elite and Formian Princess.
Actual Result:
Summoned White Slaad Lord and Grey Slaad.
Screenshot(s)
Additional Information/Notes
Seems a little odd for Lawful characters to summon beings of pure Chaos, rather than the Lawful Formians. Either the Wiki is wrong, or Lawful Evil characters
really want to mask their alignments by using Slaads.
Servers:
All Live servers
PGCC
Gaming Platform:
PC
Re: Lawful Evil Summoning Slaads for Planar Conduit
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2022 2:39 pm
by Painus
Quick bump and update. Releveled on Live so I didn't look like a fool only testing PGCC.
Same thing: casting Planar Conduit on a Lawful Evil character only summons the Slaads and not the Formians. Default alignment summoning should conjure the Formians, since you can't stream Planar Conduit. It just brings up frogmen.
Re: Lawful Evil Summoning Slaads for Planar Conduit
Posted: Sat Feb 12, 2022 10:47 pm
by Painus
Just tested on a LN character. They properly get the Formians with Planar Conduit, but LE still gets slaadi, for whatever reason. Is that intentional?
Re: Lawful Evil Summoning Slaads for Planar Conduit
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:45 am
by Skibbles
Have you checked your -stream settings?
Re: Lawful Evil Summoning Slaads for Planar Conduit
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 11:53 am
by Painus
Planar Conduit (afaik) can't be streamed and is only based on alignment, but every time I've gone to summon it I check to make sure it's set to alignment-based summoning for outsiders.
Re: Lawful Evil Summoning Slaads for Planar Conduit
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 12:03 pm
by Ping14
Planar conduit is locked on alignment like so:
LG / NG: Archons (There is no Eladrin Stream book / Prism / Quest... AFAIK)
CG: Eladrins (Take celestial book, -stream celestials)
Neutral / Evil: Mechanus / Slaad streams (both of which can be learned via stream, though mechanus is the harder to learn of the two)
Re: Lawful Evil Summoning Slaads for Planar Conduit
Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:46 pm
by xf1313
Ping14 wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 12:03 pm
Planar conduit is locked on alignment like so:
LG / NG: Archons (There is no Eladrin Stream book / Prism / Quest... AFAIK)
CG: Eladrins (Take celestial book, -stream celestials)
Neutral / Evil: Mechanus / Slaad streams (both of which can be learned via stream, though mechanus is the harder to learn of the two)
My CG priest also get Archons, I wonder why thou? I should have Eladrins... in fact I never seen anyone with Eldarins
Re: Lawful Evil Summoning Slaads for Planar Conduit
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 6:19 am
by ReverentBlade
CG can use Stream to get Celestials, but will default to Eladrin if you choose "By alignment".
Re: Lawful Evil Summoning Slaads for Planar Conduit
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 10:40 am
by Painus
Ping14 wrote: Sun Feb 13, 2022 12:03 pm
Planar conduit is locked on alignment like so:
LG / NG: Archons (There is no Eladrin Stream book / Prism / Quest... AFAIK)
CG: Eladrins (Take celestial book, -stream celestials)
Neutral / Evil: Mechanus / Slaad streams (both of which can be learned via stream, though mechanus is the harder to learn of the two)
How do you get the Mechanus stream? AFAIK there's no stream book for it.
Either way, using default alignment as a Lawful Evil character should still give the Formians. Slaads don't make sense.
Re: Lawful Evil Summoning Slaads for Planar Conduit
Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2022 11:07 am
by Ping14
Painus wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 10:40 am
How do you get the Mechanus stream? AFAIK there's no stream book for it.
Its FOIG, I have a toon with a quest on getting it, its already been running for about a month now I believe.
Its that hard, the requirements are very specific. (I still refuse to use discord for this. xD... but might have to leave messages soon when I get frustrated.)
There's a book on the topic too, about the no-book-streams. Complete with the requirements and where they are.
The better alternative is run around with a prism and ask people if they can summon it (but summoning Gear Golem/Formians, doesn't mean they have the -mec stream, they are probably TN or LN). I won't spoil the fun for you, for hunting the -mec stream. Should you get frustrated though, drop a tell, I'll give you clues - or better yet we can create RP around it... (the book I stated is not one that is mass produced... not once have I seen it on RNG bookcases).
Re: Lawful Evil Summoning Slaads for Planar Conduit
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 2:16 am
by xf1313
ReverentBlade wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 6:19 am
CG can use Stream to get Celestials, but will default to Eladrin if you choose "By alignment".
I know! But my default gives me celestials, that is why I reply here....must be a bug
Re: Lawful Evil Summoning Slaads for Planar Conduit
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:20 am
by Painus
Ping14 wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 11:07 am
Painus wrote: Mon Feb 14, 2022 10:40 am
How do you get the Mechanus stream? AFAIK there's no stream book for it.
Its FOIG, I have a toon with a quest on getting it, its already been running for about a month now I believe.
Its that hard, the requirements are very specific. (I still refuse to use discord for this. xD... but might have to leave messages soon when I get frustrated.)
There's a book on the topic too, about the no-book-streams. Complete with the requirements and where they are.
The better alternative is run around with a prism and ask people if they can summon it (but summoning Gear Golem/Formians, doesn't mean they have the -mec stream, they are probably TN or LN). I won't spoil the fun for you, for hunting the -mec stream. Should you get frustrated though, drop a tell, I'll give you clues - or better yet we can create RP around it... (the book I stated is not one that is mass produced... not once have I seen it on RNG bookcases).
Neat. I'll have to be on the look out for that.
Problem is, as it is explained in the game and announcements, Planar Conduit can't be streamed (unless I'm mistaken?) and defaults to whatever your alignment's summons would be. There seems to be discrepancies where LG, LN, CN, CE are getting their proper summons, while CG (apparently) is getting the Archons over Eladrin and LE is getting Slaads over Formians.
I've seen people running around with Eladrin though, so IDK. Maybe you need to be CG and an elf for them?
Re: Lawful Evil Summoning Slaads for Planar Conduit
Posted: Tue Feb 15, 2022 9:54 am
by Ping14
You can stream horizontally on the alignment when using planar conduit, Except LG and NG (which is stuck at Celestials, since there is no eladrin stream AFAIK).
I've seen people choose between Celestial/Eladrin.... Slaadi/Mechanus.
As for eladrin stream, I've seen a noble dwarf, priestess of Haela Brightaxe with Shiradi and Ghaele in tow - so I don't think its racially locked.