Hexblade Curse + Knight Commander's Sabre Not Using Full AB
Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2022 8:26 am
Description
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Was fiddling around with build and gear ideas on the PGCC, looking at a 25Hex/5Knight build using the Knight-Commander's Sabre. Tried using the Curse Weapon and noticed that my AB was not as high as I expected it would be, was 3 lower than where I thought. Compared the AB when using the Sabre to AB when using a standard Masterly Damask weapon and AB was where I expected it to be. The Knight-Commander's Sabre seems to be in the unique position of having both a +5AB and -3AB property applied to it simultaneously. So the -3 AB appears to be applying on top of everything, including any other enhancement bonuses a weapon might be able to become imbued with (i.e. Hexblade Curse Weapon, Blackguard Corrupt Weapon, Blade Thirst, etc.). I've only tested it with a Hexblade, but I'm guessing there are other similar abilities that would be effected by it too.
Steps to reproduce
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Hexblade Curse check: Create character with Curse Weapon V who can use Knight-Commander's Sabre, equip Sabre and try to Curse, see whether AB is at the expected value.
Other weapon enhancement spell checks: Create character with appropriate build to use Knight-Commander's Sabre and imbue it with some enhancement, equip and imbue, see whether AB is at the expected value.
Expected result
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At Curse Weapon V, would expect to be getting full +5 to attack bonus.
Actual result
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At Curse Weapon V, am only getting a total +2 to attack bonus.
Misc Notes
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I'm by no means any kind of build/mechanical expert about either NWN or Arelith so maybe this is working exactly as was intended, but on the Wiki the Knight-Commander's Sabre is listed as having a +2 attack bonus, but is considered as +5 for the purposes of breaking DR. I assume that the two +5AB and -3AB properties applied to the weapon were the way of achieving this, but it seems to interfere with things that add an enhancement bonus to the weapon in a way that doesn't feel intended based on the description of the weapon on the Wiki. I don't know any of the under-the-hood details of how either the game or the server runs, but it feels like that interaction between enhancement bonuses and attack bonuses on that weapon isn't really how it's supposed to work. This might be a pretty niche case, but it feels like a bug to me all the same.
Which Server(s)?
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PGCC, have not tested on a live server
Gaming Platform(s)?
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PC
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Was fiddling around with build and gear ideas on the PGCC, looking at a 25Hex/5Knight build using the Knight-Commander's Sabre. Tried using the Curse Weapon and noticed that my AB was not as high as I expected it would be, was 3 lower than where I thought. Compared the AB when using the Sabre to AB when using a standard Masterly Damask weapon and AB was where I expected it to be. The Knight-Commander's Sabre seems to be in the unique position of having both a +5AB and -3AB property applied to it simultaneously. So the -3 AB appears to be applying on top of everything, including any other enhancement bonuses a weapon might be able to become imbued with (i.e. Hexblade Curse Weapon, Blackguard Corrupt Weapon, Blade Thirst, etc.). I've only tested it with a Hexblade, but I'm guessing there are other similar abilities that would be effected by it too.
Steps to reproduce
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Hexblade Curse check: Create character with Curse Weapon V who can use Knight-Commander's Sabre, equip Sabre and try to Curse, see whether AB is at the expected value.
Other weapon enhancement spell checks: Create character with appropriate build to use Knight-Commander's Sabre and imbue it with some enhancement, equip and imbue, see whether AB is at the expected value.
Expected result
-----------------------
At Curse Weapon V, would expect to be getting full +5 to attack bonus.
Actual result
-------------------
At Curse Weapon V, am only getting a total +2 to attack bonus.
Misc Notes
----------------
I'm by no means any kind of build/mechanical expert about either NWN or Arelith so maybe this is working exactly as was intended, but on the Wiki the Knight-Commander's Sabre is listed as having a +2 attack bonus, but is considered as +5 for the purposes of breaking DR. I assume that the two +5AB and -3AB properties applied to the weapon were the way of achieving this, but it seems to interfere with things that add an enhancement bonus to the weapon in a way that doesn't feel intended based on the description of the weapon on the Wiki. I don't know any of the under-the-hood details of how either the game or the server runs, but it feels like that interaction between enhancement bonuses and attack bonuses on that weapon isn't really how it's supposed to work. This might be a pretty niche case, but it feels like a bug to me all the same.
Which Server(s)?
------------------------
PGCC, have not tested on a live server
Gaming Platform(s)?
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PC