Level 8 Start
Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2022 1:57 am
Regarding the level 8 start... Before I commit I want to make sure, can these characters still roll for awards?
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What do they do with the 25k gold though?Shadowy Reality wrote: Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:21 pm This allows people to use the 25k gold and roll right away, and repeat though. Fairly sure this is not allowed, but might be hard to catch.
Maybe a free gift of wealth or some other incremental system would be better, if the coding isn't a nightmare. Something like 3k gold every level up. This would prevent people from repeatedly remaking to exploit the system.Shadowy Reality wrote: Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:21 pm This allows people to use the 25k gold and roll right away, and repeat though. Fairly sure this is not allowed, but might be hard to catch.
The team has the capability to find exploiters. They will be banned and their account wiped if it was to happen. So I don’t think we need to do any further code changes and just put trust in our players to behave.Waldo52 wrote: Mon Jun 13, 2022 10:09 pmMaybe a free gift of wealth or some other incremental system would be better, if the coding isn't a nightmare. Something like 3k gold every level up. This would prevent people from repeatedly remaking to exploit the system.Shadowy Reality wrote: Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:21 pm This allows people to use the 25k gold and roll right away, and repeat though. Fairly sure this is not allowed, but might be hard to catch.
Even without any actions taken to prevent this, I think the vast majority of players are operating in good faith.
This is very easy to catch and we're actively going to be looking for it, so needless to say, don't do it.Shadowy Reality wrote: Mon Jun 13, 2022 9:21 pm This allows people to use the 25k gold and roll right away, and repeat though. Fairly sure this is not allowed, but might be hard to catch.
1. Should be available everywhere but Guldorand.Archnon wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:20 pm Couple of questions:
1.) Is the level 8 start open to non-surface characters? Ie, can you take it outside of Guld.
2.) Will there ever be a level 16 start outside of Guld?
The loss of the ECL reduction awards really dinged non-surface starts that wanted the quicker leveling early.
Pardon my presumption but if you are going for rarity wouldn't it be easier to limit the number of rewards a player can receive to 1 per 4 months or something, so like 3 per year. Even without the -2 ECL, people are going to grind because they have the time to grind and because they can get a reward out of it. I think 4 months is at least appropriate for a character arc.Irongron wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:28 pm1. Should be available everywhere but Guldorand.Archnon wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:20 pm Couple of questions:
1.) Is the level 8 start open to non-surface characters? Ie, can you take it outside of Guld.
2.) Will there ever be a level 16 start outside of Guld?
The loss of the ECL reduction awards really dinged non-surface starts that wanted the quicker leveling early.
2. No plans, currently.
As for the ECL reduction rewards, these were removed because they became a go to choice for those relentlessly grinding out rewards, to the extent that content intended to be rare, was commonplace. We are looking at means to curtail the reward grind, at which time they can be reintroduced.
I think it's a stop gap solution as they work something out. It's my hopes that what you say is the foundation but with more nuances.Archnon wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 7:47 pmPardon my presumption but if you are going for rarity wouldn't it be easier to limit the number of rewards a player can receive to 1 per 4 months or something, so like 3 per year. Even without the -2 ECL, people are going to grind because they have the time to grind and because they can get a reward out of it. I think 4 months is at least appropriate for a character arc.Irongron wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:28 pm1. Should be available everywhere but Guldorand.Archnon wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:20 pm Couple of questions:
1.) Is the level 8 start open to non-surface characters? Ie, can you take it outside of Guld.
2.) Will there ever be a level 16 start outside of Guld?
The loss of the ECL reduction awards really dinged non-surface starts that wanted the quicker leveling early.
2. No plans, currently.
As for the ECL reduction rewards, these were removed because they became a go to choice for those relentlessly grinding out rewards, to the extent that content intended to be rare, was commonplace. We are looking at means to curtail the reward grind, at which time they can be reintroduced.