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Shadow summons aggroing on wall of fire (Shadow evocation)
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2022 8:31 pm
by zeroth
1. Prepare Summons shadows spell (shadow conjuration) and Shadow Evocation
2. Summon shadows.
3. Cast shadow evocation (Firewall) on group of enemies.
4. Shadows takes no damage but aggro on summoner.
5. Summoner get strength drained.
Re: Shadow summons aggroing on wall of fire (Shadow evocation)
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 7:33 pm
by Aren
This happens with any summon, henchman, dominated npc or familiar that has the sneak attack feat. It's been that way since forever - and it's likely not something that's an easy fix.
Re: Shadow summons aggroing on wall of fire (Shadow evocation)
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:55 pm
by Kalopsia
I've just looked at the spell script and got an idea. Would you mind listing all spells you know to cause this issue?
Re: Shadow summons aggroing on wall of fire (Shadow evocation)
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:29 pm
by MRFTW
Kalopsia wrote: Sat Aug 06, 2022 8:55 pm
I've just looked at the spell script and got an idea. Would you mind listing all spells you know to cause this issue?
I've seen it happen with a Ranger / Druid pet from Stinking Cloud.
Re: Shadow summons aggroing on wall of fire (Shadow evocation)
Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:44 am
by WanderingPoet
Darkness
Gust of Wind
Stinking Cloud
Entangle
Grease
Stonehold
Fire Wall
Ice Wall
Blade Barrier
Incendiary Cloud
Acid Fog
Spiked Growth
All the Tentacle Spells
Fireball
Delayed Blastfireball
Burning Hands
Colour Spray
Basically anything that can -affect- the summon will trigger murder mode (often even if party friendly, or the summon is immune to them). I've even had my own animal companion murder me over hitting it with a gust of wind as a druid.
Also Shadowdancer summon tends to just try to murder people for no reason at all.
Re: Shadow summons aggroing on wall of fire (Shadow evocation)
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:16 am
by Kalopsia
Sadly my idea didn't work. The culprit is buried somewhere in 20-year-old AI scripts.
Re: Shadow summons aggroing on wall of fire (Shadow evocation)
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 8:39 pm
by Kalopsia
So, KenC just gave me another idea and I've managed to find and fix the culprit.
Within a reset or two, this long-standing issue should finally be a thing of the past.
At least if BioWare hasn't hidden any more surprises in this ancient AI code base :D