Arelith

Morgy wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:02 am If it helps, right clicking the product and using numpad 6 makes things much quicker.. especially for items that sit in the right-hand side of the shop window, as the mouse cursor tends to land back on them again.

Spyre wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 11:56 pm There was work by BD (or was it NWNX?) that was allowing partial purchase of stacks to make it easier to buy things. However, purchases from merchants is very limited in what we can do. We have options, but is a lot of work.

1) You could redesign the whole merchant system and turn it into NUI. You then can buy as many as you want from it.

2) An area designer can identify every single merchant through opening every server area and updating their inventory to provide higher stocks (this is the least feasible option and extremely time consuming since there is only a few people with full area access).

In the mean time, I would suggest macros if possible to save yourself some pain from having to do it manually. And I am sure there is other options I have missed.

Morgy wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:02 am If it helps, right clicking the product and using numpad 6 makes things much quicker.. especially for items that sit in the right-hand side of the shop window, as the mouse cursor tends to land back on them again.

The Rambling Midget wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:33 am

Morgy wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 1:02 am If it helps, right clicking the product and using numpad 6 makes things much quicker.. especially for items that sit in the right-hand side of the shop window, as the mouse cursor tends to land back on them again.

Initiate a conversation with the merchant, open your spellbook, and then select the option to open their trade window. This will force their shop window into a different position, so that you can spam click icons that would normally be unfavorably placed.

Spyre wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 11:56 pm There was work by BD (or was it NWNX?) that was allowing partial purchase of stacks to make it easier to buy things. However, purchases from merchants is very limited in what we can do. We have options, but is a lot of work.

1) You could redesign the whole merchant system and turn it into NUI. You then can buy as many as you want from it.

2) An area designer can identify every single merchant through opening every server area and updating their inventory to provide higher stocks (this is the least feasible option and extremely time consuming since there is only a few people with full area access).

In the mean time, I would suggest macros if possible to save yourself some pain from having to do it manually. And I am sure there is other options I have missed.

D4wN wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:46 am

Spyre wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 11:56 pm There was work by BD (or was it NWNX?) that was allowing partial purchase of stacks to make it easier to buy things. However, purchases from merchants is very limited in what we can do. We have options, but is a lot of work.

1) You could redesign the whole merchant system and turn it into NUI. You then can buy as many as you want from it.

2) An area designer can identify every single merchant through opening every server area and updating their inventory to provide higher stocks (this is the least feasible option and extremely time consuming since there is only a few people with full area access).

In the mean time, I would suggest macros if possible to save yourself some pain from having to do it manually. And I am sure there is other options I have missed.

Would it not be possible to simply add stacks of 100 or 50 to the vendors options to buy? I will promise you that I shall buy them LOL

msheeler wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:26 pm

D4wN wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:46 am

Spyre wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 11:56 pm There was work by BD (or was it NWNX?) that was allowing partial purchase of stacks to make it easier to buy things. However, purchases from merchants is very limited in what we can do. We have options, but is a lot of work.

1) You could redesign the whole merchant system and turn it into NUI. You then can buy as many as you want from it.

2) An area designer can identify every single merchant through opening every server area and updating their inventory to provide higher stocks (this is the least feasible option and extremely time consuming since there is only a few people with full area access).

In the mean time, I would suggest macros if possible to save yourself some pain from having to do it manually. And I am sure there is other options I have missed.

Would it not be possible to simply add stacks of 100 or 50 to the vendors options to buy? I will promise you that I shall buy them LOL

This would be so inconceivably mind numbing and long it would never be worth it. It would take someone with full access (Basically Irongon or Spyre? ) an estimated 2 two 3 weeks working 8 hours a day doing nothing but this. Given that this is volunteer stuff and people generally have a quarter of that time on any given day to put work into this you could multiply that duration by 4 and say it would realistically take a good 2 months of dev work.

Just to give you a hard figure on what you are asking for.

donarek wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 4:28 pm This is a little auto-hotkey script, that I use for bulk buying in NWN.

Installation: https://www.autohotkey.com/download/ahk-install.exe , shoud associate .ahk scripts with this program, which are just text files.

Make an file, for example - nwn-buyscript.ahk

Put inside:

Code: Select all

SetKeyDelay, 0
CoordMode, Mouse, Screen
;-- windows + a - pauses script in case of crazy stuff happens during loop
#a::Pause
;-- Buy once
NumpadAdd::
	Buy()
return
;-- Buy multiple times, Loop X-times
NumpadSub::
	Loop 25
	{
		Buy()
	}
return
;-- Buy function itself
Buy()
{
	global X
	global Y
	MouseGetPos, X, Y
	Send, {RButton}
	Sleep, 120
	Send, {Numpad6}
	Sleep, 120
	MouseMove, X, Y, 0
	Sleep, 100
	MouseMove, 2, 0, 0, R
	Sleep, 100
	MouseMove, -2, 0, 0, R
	Sleep, 50
	return
}

I don't know if those initiall two lines are really needed. Plz, take it as starter for your experimentation. Save file, double click it to run with AutoHotkey. You can see it's running by white H icon on green background in your system tray area. Right click to exit. The script itself shoud be self-explanatory (to a degree :0).

Numpad +, when mouse cursor is on shop item you want - buy once.
Numpad -, when mouse cursor is on shop item you want - buy 25times or number you specify in script. Dont forget to reload the script if you edit loop count.

EDIT - I play NWN in windowed mode, maximised.

D4wN wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 12:37 am

msheeler wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:26 pm

D4wN wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:46 am

Would it not be possible to simply add stacks of 100 or 50 to the vendors options to buy? I will promise you that I shall buy them LOL

This would be so inconceivably mind numbing and long it would never be worth it. It would take someone with full access (Basically Irongon or Spyre? ) an estimated 2 two 3 weeks working 8 hours a day doing nothing but this. Given that this is volunteer stuff and people generally have a quarter of that time on any given day to put work into this you could multiply that duration by 4 and say it would realistically take a good 2 months of dev work.

Just to give you a hard figure on what you are asking for.

Sorry I'm not a coder and I'm unsure why this would be so much work. The current vendors already stock single items. Forgive my ignorance but why would it be so much work to add stacks of 10 on top of single items (similar to the empty magical bottles used for brewing potions) as permanent items to buy on potion or paper selling vendors? Just trying to understand

Spyre wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 2:00 am

D4wN wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 12:37 am

msheeler wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:26 pm

This would be so inconceivably mind numbing and long it would never be worth it. It would take someone with full access (Basically Irongon or Spyre? ) an estimated 2 two 3 weeks working 8 hours a day doing nothing but this. Given that this is volunteer stuff and people generally have a quarter of that time on any given day to put work into this you could multiply that duration by 4 and say it would realistically take a good 2 months of dev work.

Just to give you a hard figure on what you are asking for.

Sorry I'm not a coder and I'm unsure why this would be so much work. The current vendors already stock single items. Forgive my ignorance but why would it be so much work to add stacks of 10 on top of single items (similar to the empty magical bottles used for brewing potions) as permanent items to buy on potion or paper selling vendors? Just trying to understand

It's option two of my list there.

Vendors are not code based; they are placed individually in the area (most often these are custom made shops per area) and would require a person to load the area in the toolset, make the adjustments, then upload the area to our repositories. The only people with full area access are Irongron, myself and I think Actionreplay.

The most difficult part is that we do not know where every single merchant is. And, that is the time consuming part.

donarek wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 4:28 pm This is a little auto-hotkey script, that I use for bulk buying in NWN.

Installation: https://www.autohotkey.com/download/ahk-install.exe , shoud associate .ahk scripts with this program, which are just text files.

Make an file, for example - nwn-buyscript.ahk

Put inside:

Code: Select all

SetKeyDelay, 0
CoordMode, Mouse, Screen
;-- windows + a - pauses script in case of crazy stuff happens during loop
#a::Pause
;-- Buy once
NumpadAdd::
	Buy()
return
;-- Buy multiple times, Loop X-times
NumpadSub::
	Loop 25
	{
		Buy()
	}
return
;-- Buy function itself
Buy()
{
	global X
	global Y
	MouseGetPos, X, Y
	Send, {RButton}
	Sleep, 120
	Send, {Numpad6}
	Sleep, 120
	MouseMove, X, Y, 0
	Sleep, 100
	MouseMove, 2, 0, 0, R
	Sleep, 100
	MouseMove, -2, 0, 0, R
	Sleep, 50
	return
}

I don't know if those initiall two lines are really needed. Plz, take it as starter for your experimentation. Save file, double click it to run with AutoHotkey. You can see it's running by white H icon on green background in your system tray area. Right click to exit. The script itself shoud be self-explanatory (to a degree :0).

Numpad +, when mouse cursor is on shop item you want - buy once.
Numpad -, when mouse cursor is on shop item you want - buy 25times or number you specify in script. Dont forget to reload the script if you edit loop count.

EDIT - I play NWN in windowed mode, maximised.

^ESC:: ;Deactivate Loop Mode
BreakLoop = 1
return

^+ESC:: ;Activate Loop Mode
BreakLoop = 0
return

^0:: ;autobuy
MouseGetPos, xpos, ypos

loop 10000
{
if(BreakLoop = 1)
break

MouseClick, right, xpos, ypos
SendEvent {Numpad3}
sleep, 100
}
return

donarek wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 4:28 pm This is a little auto-hotkey script, that I use for bulk buying in NWN.

Spyre wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 2:00 am

D4wN wrote: Thu Nov 24, 2022 12:37 am

msheeler wrote: Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:26 pm

This would be so inconceivably mind numbing and long it would never be worth it. It would take someone with full access (Basically Irongon or Spyre? ) an estimated 2 two 3 weeks working 8 hours a day doing nothing but this. Given that this is volunteer stuff and people generally have a quarter of that time on any given day to put work into this you could multiply that duration by 4 and say it would realistically take a good 2 months of dev work.

Just to give you a hard figure on what you are asking for.

Sorry I'm not a coder and I'm unsure why this would be so much work. The current vendors already stock single items. Forgive my ignorance but why would it be so much work to add stacks of 10 on top of single items (similar to the empty magical bottles used for brewing potions) as permanent items to buy on potion or paper selling vendors? Just trying to understand

It's option two of my list there.

Vendors are not code based; they are placed individually in the area (most often these are custom made shops per area) and would require a person to load the area in the toolset, make the adjustments, then upload the area to our repositories. The only people with full area access are Irongron, myself and I think Actionreplay.

The most difficult part is that we do not know where every single merchant is. And, that is the time consuming part.